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TheRealMafoo on 18 May 2009
The_vagabond7 said:
TheRealMafoo said:
The_vagabond7 said:

There are always options, but the other guys can afford much better marketing. And as somebody that loves the free market so much, you should know that good business sense and marketing is what takes somebody to the top. The free market just doesn't feel that it can benefit as greatly by buying Ron Paul as having democrats and republicans run things, since they have already purchased both parties. Why risk so much money pushing a libertarian or independant when you have two perfectly good parties in the garage already? I know you love the free market, and with good reason. But they are the reason that we only have two terrible choices shoved down our throat every election cycle. It's just good business.

 

 

I still want to argue with you, because while you're right, I hate that it's true :p

(not the you being right part, but what you are right about)

lol, it's cool. You're right about alot of things I don't like. Ideologically I agree with alot of you say, but pragmatically I tend to be less sure. But I too believe in personal responsibility above all else, and standing on ones own feet with as little help (or interference depending on perspective) from the government as possible. I don't always like the way you say things, but I agree with alot of what you say.

 

lol, thanks. Yea, I see you and I very similar. The only big difference is I am turning 40 in a few months.

I have had the luxury of seeing 5 presidents as an adult, and all of them had the same problem. They all thought they could fix things by making it there problem to solve.

Every single president, centralizes power a little bit more, and every time they do, things get worse. In my lifetime, we have yet to have one say "problem x just isn't a federal issue. Let's stop worrying about it, and let the states take care of it".

Ron Paul was the closest to a president that would have done that, and he was not remotely close. At my age, I am either more wise, or more jaded. Most likely a combination of both, let's hope I am more of the former, and not the latter.

 



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akuma587 on 19 May 2009

Not to mention Ron Paul is a bit crazy himself.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Tyrannical on 19 May 2009

They should start the briefings with Pat Buchana quotations. We might end up in fewer wars that way.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

That Guy on 19 May 2009

I've noticed a lot of the servs have been coming out of the woodwork lately.

Anyways, have you seen the covers of Rumsfeld's TOP SECRET documents? It looks like he freakin did it in like Powerpoint.

I'm sure that the contents of the memos are more bible quotations, a map of Iraq, and a big arrow labelled "BOMB HERE"

http://men.style.com/gq/features/topsecret



highwaystar101 on 19 May 2009

Here's my view on what the world should be like.

Religion.........................................................................Politics

They have made the right step here.



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The Ghost of RubangB on 19 May 2009

George Carlin said it best. (horribly paraphrased) "Religion and politics fuck us over enough on their own, why should we want them to work together?"



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The_vagabond7 on 19 May 2009
That Guy said:

I've noticed a lot of the servs have been coming out of the woodwork lately.

Anyways, have you seen the covers of Rumsfeld's TOP SECRET documents? It looks like he freakin did it in like Powerpoint.

I'm sure that the contents of the memos are more bible quotations, a map of Iraq, and a big arrow labelled "BOMB HERE"

http://men.style.com/gq/features/topsecret


Actually seeing them is even more disgusting. If you are proud of your president's jihad, you can't judge other nations for waging their own jihad. Wars between two religions are just analogous to Dr. Seuss's "The Butter Battle".



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Kasz216 on 19 May 2009
The_vagabond7 said:
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But they offended at least one Muslim analyst at the Pentagon and worried other employees that the passages were inappropriate.

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I feel much safer with a liberty stealing socialist in the white house than a gun toting jesus freak.

 

First off, I think it's ridicules to have those quotes on government briefings. I am glad they are gone.

To the first quote. Who cares? I get tired of hearing about who was offended. It's not against the law to offend people. People are so hand held these days. So you're offended. Get over it.

To the second quote. Neither are acceptable. The fact that we are 0-3 in the last three elections is pathetic. Americans need to do much better at electing leaders.

 

I'm not really saying that a liberty stealing socialist is a great president, but if I had to pick one or the other, I go with Obama. I'm only 24 so I've never actually had a chance to be proud of our president. And I don't really blame american's for picking crappy presidents, I blame a broken system where in private industry buys the candidates of their choice to shove down our throats, and americans get to pick between two candidates that for all intents and purposes are pretty much identical in practice (though not in speech). But that's neither here nor there (I will end up derailing my own topic very quickly with this).

 

Anytime a person can condemn thousands to death and say "Jesus made me do it", that person should be labeled insane and locked up. It's the Nuremberg defense for the religiously inclined.

 

I don't know.  What Obama has planned for Afghanistan seems pretty bad.

What crazy people were saying about him doesn't seem as crazy....



SciFiBoy on 19 May 2009

the birble is a lodas of nonsenes for people who noe understand science imooo!



Aj_habfan on 19 May 2009

It shouldn't be done, but I don't share your feelings of the president himself for taking comfort in scriptures. The reasons for the war are political, and he probably didn't want it to hurt the spiritual side of his life. It's highly unlikely this had any motivation in the start or continuation of the war.