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jimmay said:
fkusumot said:
jimmay said:
Erik Aston said:
But only 8 500K sellers for the rest of the year on Wii? That's absurd.

My point is both the 360 and ps3 will have more 500k sellers than the wii during sep-dec 2007, 8 500k sellers on the wii is just a rough guess for the wii.


Move goalposts much?


No because that was my original prediction, then fanboys in denial started argueing the point and were pulling lists full of rubbish wii games out their backsides and trying to claim they would sell well so i cut down their lists to show the most likely games that would sell over 500,000.


 So you're making a prediction?



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fkusumot said:
jimmay said:
fkusumot said:
jimmay said:
Erik Aston said:
But only 8 500K sellers for the rest of the year on Wii? That's absurd.

My point is both the 360 and ps3 will have more 500k sellers than the wii during sep-dec 2007, 8 500k sellers on the wii is just a rough guess for the wii.


Move goalposts much?


No because that was my original prediction, then fanboys in denial started argueing the point and were pulling lists full of rubbish wii games out their backsides and trying to claim they would sell well so i cut down their lists to show the most likely games that would sell over 500,000.


So you're making a prediction?

I don't think that your going to get an answer.  I think that he won't answer in case he is wrong and then he won't have to be held to his prediction.

 

OT:  I can't say anything for Japan, although some will say that Nintendo diverte supply to the US for Metroid.  I would say that for the next month, the 360 should be very good competition for the Wii and possibly outsell it at some point.  

That said, I don't think that one month is enough for third parties to begin diverting resources to the 360 or or simply away from the Wii.  I'll change my opinion if the Wii is not supply constrained overall and is beaten by the 360 or PS3 during Christmas.

 



Onimusha12 said:
So Jimmay is Hus' replacement. That's great.

 What happened to Hus?



jimmay said:
Soriku said:
jimmay said:
fkusumot said:
jimmay said:
Erik Aston said:
But only 8 500K sellers for the rest of the year on Wii? That's absurd.

My point is both the 360 and ps3 will have more 500k sellers than the wii during sep-dec 2007, 8 500k sellers on the wii is just a rough guess for the wii.


Move goalposts much?


No because that was my original prediction, then fanboys in denial started argueing the point and were pulling lists full of rubbish wii games out their backsides and trying to claim they would sell well so i cut down their lists to show the most likely games that would sell over 500,000.


 

Like you?

Yes a text book fanboy response well done. Im a fanboy of good games, that's why i own all three systems, why dont you stop spamming this thread.


Spam-master Jimmay doesn't like competition!



i understand where you are coming from Jimmay, in that the Wii has some excellent selling games alongside a massive amount of poor sellers, and ps3 has a lot of average sellers [and a lot of poor sellers].... but you are taking it to the extreme.

If you can clarify for me, do you mean to predict;
A) that of the games released between now and xmas, only the ones you mentioned will reach 500k lifetime sales.
or B) those are the games that will manage 500k sales between now and xmas.

In truth i doubt either of the above will result in more ps3>500k games than Wii.

Although i couldnt predict which to add if its scenario (A) i would bet you could triple your Wii list and take maybe 5-10 off ps3 list... if it's (B) i would maybe only double Wii list but cut a lot more from ps3.



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jimmay said:
fkusumot said:
jimmay said:
Erik Aston said:
But only 8 500K sellers for the rest of the year on Wii? That's absurd.

My point is both the 360 and ps3 will have more 500k sellers than the wii during sep-dec 2007, 8 500k sellers on the wii is just a rough guess for the wii.


Move goalposts much?


No because that was my original prediction, then fanboys in denial started argueing the point and were pulling lists full of rubbish wii games out their backsides and trying to claim they would sell well so i cut down their lists to show the most likely games that would sell over 500,000.


Then I want to clarify: Since you separated the list by systems, and listed MP games multiple times, you are expecting those games to sell 500000+ on each system.

Right lots of questions so i'll answer them all in one post. To clarify here are my predictions:

Prediciton 1 - of all the games released between the 1st of september till the 31st of december using gamerankings as the overall review score source both the 360 and the ps3 will have more games rated over 80% than the wii will.

Prediction 2 - of all the games released between the 1st of september till the 31st of december both the 360 and ps3 will have more games that go on to sell over 500,000 than the wii will worldwide. So for example a game could be released in october 2007 and it might take a year for it sell over 500,000 but that will still count as that game selling over 500,000. Also multiformat games are counted as individual formats, so if fifa 2008 sells over 500,000 EACH on the 360 and ps3 but less than 500,000 on the wii then fifa only counts for the 360 and ps3, not the wii.

The individual lists i gave of games selling over 500,000 for each console are only rough guesses to suppost my point and are not predictions. 



jimmay said:

Right lots of questions so i'll answer them all in one post. To clarify here are my predictions:

Prediciton 1 - of all the games released between the 1st of september till the 31st of december using gamerankings as the overall review score source both the 360 and the ps3 will have more games rated over 80% than the wii will.

Prediction 2 - of all the games released between the 1st of september till the 31st of december both the 360 and ps3 will have more games that go on to sell over 500,000 than the wii will worldwide. So for example a game could be released in october 2007 and it might take a year for it sell over 500,000 but that will still count as that game selling over 500,000. Also multiformat games are counted as individual formats, so if fifa 2008 sells over 500,000 EACH on the 360 and ps3 but less than 500,000 on the wii then fifa only counts for the 360 and ps3, not the wii.

The individual lists i gave of games selling over 500,000 for each console are only rough guesses to suppost my point and are not predictions.


Prediction 1 is not sales related. Prediction 2 is worthless.



etuoyo said:

Before I get attacked for being a Sony or Xbox fanatic I should mention that I am the biggest Nintendo fan and have been since I got a NES in the late 80s.  But at the same time I am a realist.  Wii sales have been  steadily declining in Japan and last week Wii was almost outsold in the US by 360.  With Halo coming out shortly Wii is bound to be outsold by 360 for thenext few weeks.  As great a product as Wii is it is certainly not the greatest thing known to man (proabably would be if it had HD, hard disk, blu ray or HD-DVD plus all the Wii features and miraculously still cost the same price - which is obviously an impossible scenario).  A huge part of the reason for its increadible success so far has been the momentum it has generated since launch.  

With the Wii dropping constantly in Japan it looks like it could be losing that momentum in Japan unless something drastic happens to change that (Mario Galaxy, Brawl & Wii Fit or a price drop maybe).  In the US if 360 starts outselling it consistently for the next few weeks the Media will pick up on this which will stream down to the public and all of a sudden buyers will feel the Wii is not such a hot product after all and the 360 is the video game to pick up (at least those that can afford it which seems to be many).  This would then cause Wii to lose its momentum in the US.  

 It will also cause 3rd parties to take note.  There is alot of talk about them now starting to shift focus to Wii but if they see Wii is losing momentum they may decide not to switch after all especially considering how well 3rd party games are selling on 360.  The shift of resources by 3rd parties is one of the reasons people expect Wii to outsell 360 and PS3 significantly.  But what happens if they don't because they see Wii is losing momentum. 

People on these forums seem extremely confident Wii will sell close to 200 million but the way things are looking right now I see a huge possibility it will even struggle to get to 100 million (although anything close to that will still be a massive success for Nintendo especially financially).

So is there a risk the Will bubble will burst soon (not necessarily this year or next but before it totally runs away from the competition)? 


Do i need to say nothing: http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS2&reg2=All&cons3=PS3&reg3=All&align=1 ;)



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Okay jimmay, but we're gonna make you eat a mountain of crow if you're wrong.

We are holding you to your prediction.



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