Yea, and the difference in how FDR spent a lot of the money, was to create jobs for people. He did it in a temporary way. Terraformed lands, built roads, whatever. When the economy came back, those jobs (and the cost of them) went away.

Obama is spending money by making permanent policy. When the economy comes back, those dollars will still be spent.

How the government plans to collect those funds, no one knows yet. It's been proven taxes won't do the trick (we have never collected more then 21% of GDP in this country), so not sure what will happen.

He reminds me of Karl Marx in that they're both socialist/communist

Incorrect.

You remind me of a talk show host in that you make wild and ridiculous claims just for the shock factor.

I have come to the realization, via living in California, that the whole system needs to be torn down and be rebuilt. In fact - I don't think we need to renovate institutions - I think they need to be torn down and rethought. I believe in having a bureaucracy but eventually it ends up become a drain because it no longer functions. Sure it worked for a short period of time from which it was created but it can't last forever. In fact - I really don't believe in representative democracy any more - its so temporary.

In california the financial decisions have been left up to the people - not about how the government will be run but whether taxes will be raised and school funding will remain the same. It's bullshit because people don't want to raise taxes on themselves and the politicians don't want to destroy the institutions that pay them.

I guess the whole nature of reality continues to become more complex and incomprehsible (economy-i continually read about it and still cannot fully fathom it [I think you have to be a psychologist/sociologist/physicist/philosopher/economist]).

Oh yeah, this is about Obama and FDR. Let's see FDR created new institutions, Obama is miming the policies of FDR. The real difference is that the creation of FDRs institutions were fairly new, love em or hate em, and Obama is trying to do the same things except in this point in history a repetition of old policy is inadequate. Imagine if a dying company said -"lets go back to our roots" and proceeded to start manufacturing something obsolete from 40's years ago. IT may make us feel a sense of nostalgia but it is a pointless gesture in the end.

Similarly, I think the hearkening back to the early days of the U.S. is just as pointless and nostalgic. I think governments/instituions need to die and be reborn.

God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure. - Thomas Jefferson

I think Jefferson was right.