dcIKeeL said:
Boy o Boy, we really are getting dumber aren't we? First of all, your little research there, is automatically thrash as soon as i read "our frame". You should get your information from an objective neutral source not sony or anyone who supports them. Like I sead before, the ps3 and 360 both use the exact same chip/core. EXACT SAME ONE! Why, because they were developed by an engineer named Dave Shippy and his team at IBM, in conjunction with sony, toshiba and later microsoft. That supercomputer chip and core, is in the 360 as well mr. sony minion. This is how it went in summarized laymans terms: It was IBM's chip, IBM was commissioned by Sony and Toshiba to build it, nearly 2 years into the design phase of "THE CELL" IBM struct a deal with Microsoft and decided that It's engineers (dave shippy and company) and they're chip, was also being designed for Microsoft. IBM came to an agreement with sony, toshiba and microsoft that they'd make this 1 COMMON CORE with new features and every company's input would be considered when ever possible. All parties agreed, chip was made, end of story. According to Dave Shippy, the creator of the powerpc processing core(supercomputer chip) and the cell, when asked which company used his processor more efficiently and therefore which console was more powerful he resonded: "I think they're fairly equal. What's interesting is that the powerpc common in both systems is used in completely different ways". Meaning the way the cell uses it's core and the way 360's architecture uses it differ greatly but in the end they're equal, one is more efficient than the other at different things and cancel each other out. You can argue with the designer of the cores if you choose, but this definitely puts a gaping hole in your supercomputer nonsense....seeing as BOTH the ps3 and the 360 are powered by the same processor in your cute little supercomputer. Word of advice, grow up and be objective to everything, argue with logic not emotion and personal preference, it makes you say stupid bias things like this. |
WOW i hope you aren't serious. besides personal insults are forbidden on this forum. Before calling someone stupid you might wanna get your fact straight.
The Processors are completely differently built. The only thing they share in common is the ppe.
No way ! I can't honestly believe you think that. Wow !
Also i believe when you call someone dumb you are arguing with emotions.
- 90 nm process[4], 65 nm process upgrade in 2007[5] (codenamed "Falcon"), possible 32 nm process dated around second half of 2009[6]
- 165 million transistors
- Three symmetrical cores, each two way SMT-capable and clocked at 3.2 GHz[4]
- SIMD: VMX128 with 2× (128×128 bit) register files for each core.[4]
- 1 MiB L2 cache[4] (lockable by the GPU) running at half-speed (1.6 GHz) with a 256-bit bus
- 51.2 gigabytes per second of L2 memory bandwidth (256 bit × 1600 MHz)
- 21.6 GB/s Front-Side Bus[4]
- Dot product performance: 9.6 billion per second
- 115.2 GFLOPS theoretical peak performance
- Restricted to In-order code execution[4]
- eFuse 768bits[7].
- ROM (and 64Kbytes SRAM) storing Microsoft's Secure Bootloader, and encryption hypervisor[7].
- Big endian architecture.
CPU
Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
And it's their frame.. because it's their game and they need to get it operating within that frame. My point was that you can use the spus for grahpical purposes. And even though the xenon is based on a modified version of the ppe it has nothing to do with spus :p And those are the ones that make the ps3 a beast. .. Not to mention unique.
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