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jmm36 on 21 September 2007

Blu-Ray sales are not impressive to date. Hollywood is not making money off of it, and will not for a long time. That is why Paramount and Dreamworks are willing to side with HD-DVD exclusively at this point. HD-DVD makes more sense for them, both from a production standpoint and very likely in profits per disc. Not to mention the technology platform, which they believe is stronger than Blu-Ray. (Especially the interactivity.) Sony has yet to define what Blu-Ray really is. There is no definitive Blu-Ray standard.



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akuma587 on 21 September 2007
jmm36 said:
Blu-Ray sales are not impressive to date. Hollywood is not making money off of it, and will not for a long time. That is why Paramount and Dreamworks are willing to side with HD-DVD exclusively at this point. HD-DVD makes more sense for them, both from a production standpoint and very likely in profits per disc. Not to mention the technology platform, which they believe is stronger than Blu-Ray. (Especially the interactivity.) Sony has yet to define what Blu-Ray really is. There is no definitive Blu-Ray standard.

 You know that delays in one side or the other winning the format war (which simply based on sales and install player base (you can cut the PS3's into 1/4th of a blu-ray player if you want)) ultimately loses the studios more money because it delays mass market acceptance.  BD Java specs will be required to meet a certain level in all new Blu-Ray players I think either next month or the month after, and interactivity doesn't sell discs, it is just icing.  



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TheBigFatJ on 21 September 2007
superchunk said:
Even though walmart may not be carrying this piece, I bet circuit city and/or best buy will.

Walmart sells a lot more electronics than Circuit City and Best Buy.



flagship on 21 September 2007

Or more likely Ventura won't give Wally World a large enough portion markup to make it worth their while.

If Ventura is helping keep the cost down by only allowing a small retail profit WalMart probably won't make enough on the extra HD-DVD sales to justify the risk of stocking the player.



Jam on 21 September 2007

Never heard of Ventura, would not buy their product.



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Onimusha12 on 21 September 2007
Jam said:
Never heard of Ventura, would not buy their product.

 Well of course you wouldn't Hus, it's an HD-DVD player.



Kasz216 on 21 September 2007

I agree, considering what i know of Wal-Mart (from working there and other stuff)...

It's not that they think Blu-Ray is better or that it won't sell. It's just that they arn't getting a high enough markup on it.

They'll carry it if the makers backdown and offer them a cheaper buy in price.



Kasz216 on 21 September 2007

I still don't get this "war" either. Mass Market acceptance will never happen for Blu-Ray even when HDDVD goes away. Unless DVD goes away or Blu-Ray becomes the same price.

Higher definition isn't going to be enough to get the mass market to switch in my opinion. It took DVD forever to put tapes away and DVD had the advantage of adding dozens of very helpful options like scene selection, extra content and not needing to rewind



akuma587 on 21 September 2007
Onimusha12 said:
Jam said:
Never heard of Ventura, would not buy their product.

Well of course you wouldn't Hus, it's an HD-DVD player.

 Had you ever heard of Venturer? I agree that the mass market will accept a next gen DVD less quickly than the accepted DVD, but I think the rate will get faster and faster since you almost have to try and buy a non-HD TV these days. 

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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Onimusha12 on 22 September 2007
akuma587 said:
Onimusha12 said:
Jam said:
Never heard of Ventura, would not buy their product.

Well of course you wouldn't Hus, it's an HD-DVD player.

 Had you ever heard of Venturer? I agree that the mass market will accept a next gen DVD less quickly than the accepted DVD, but I think the rate will get faster and faster since you almost have to try and buy a non-HD TV these days. 

 Actually I had. I'm honestly holding out for Red-Ray if it has any chance, In the end most consumers are probably waiting for the war to end before investing in any of the three choices.