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richardhutnik on 14 May 2009
Hyperion said:
lol the Conduit looks better....

What is this?
Thread fail

Of course The Conduit is better.  The question is whether or not it is 500% better, so that the value equals out (cost vs entertainment value.  And yes, I am tweaking the nose of the attempt at hyped or buzz behind "The Conduit" here, but if you want to spin this into something that is more constructive, you can look at several of these angles:

1. Price vs value, and the ability to measure this.  Like is a game worth it more as a bargain title then if it was at full price.  If so, at what point does it make sense to buy it?

2. To what extend can a small "garage game" project hold up to a full-blown production title?

3. Why the heck did someone produce an XBox Live Community game FPS?

4. How much more would you pay for a game to get added production value?

 

There are other ones also, if people care to run with it.  I believe it would be good if people do this, rather than get all defensive over "The Conduit" supposedly being "all that and a bag of chips".  We are talking a Wii FPS title here.   Are people expecting this title to be a killer app that will drive XBox 360 owners to suddenly sell their 360's and buy Wiis instead?



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richardhutnik on 14 May 2009
Mr Khan said:

Does this game include competitive multiplayer?

That would help answer the question...

And what would contribute what percentage to Jonny Crush holding up to The Conduit?

 



Chrizum on 14 May 2009
richardhutnik said:
Hyperion said:
lol the Conduit looks better....

What is this?
Thread fail

Of course The Conduit is better.  The question is whether or not it is 500% better, so that the value equals out (cost vs entertainment value.  And yes, I am tweaking the nose of the attempt at hyped or buzz behind "The Conduit" here, but if you want to spin this into something that is more constructive, you can look at several of these angles:

1. Price vs value, and the ability to measure this.  Like is a game worth it more as a bargain title then if it was at full price.  If so, at what point does it make sense to buy it?

2. To what extend can a small "garage game" project hold up to a full-blown production title?

3. Why the heck did someone produce an XBox Live Community game FPS?

4. How much more would you pay for a game to get added production value?

 

There are other ones also, if people care to run with it.  I believe it would be good if people do this, rather than get all defensive over "The Conduit" supposedly being "all that and a bag of chips".  We are talking a Wii FPS title here.   Are people expecting this title to be a killer app that will drive XBox 360 owners to suddenly sell their 360's and buy Wiis instead?

Ouch, too bad. Showed your true colors there buddy. The thread could have succeeded but you let your guard down a tad soon.

So let's get this over with. Let's yell "troll, troll!", close the thread and forget about it.

 



richardhutnik on 14 May 2009
Chrizum said:
richardhutnik said:

There are other ones also, if people care to run with it.  I believe it would be good if people do this, rather than get all defensive over "The Conduit" supposedly being "all that and a bag of chips".  We are talking a Wii FPS title here.   Are people expecting this title to be a killer app that will drive XBox 360 owners to suddenly sell their 360's and buy Wiis instead?

Ouch, too bad. Showed your true colors there buddy. The thread could have succeeded but you let your guard down a tad soon.

So let's get this over with. Let's yell "troll, troll!", close the thread and forget about it.

 

People made out Killzone 2 to be a killer app that would drive 360 owners to the PS3.  Even Sony chatted like that.  Why wouldn't I have the same expectations for The Conduit NOT doing this, as I did Killzone 2?  Ok, maybe it will end up getting 360 owners to LOOK at a Wii as a potential console for FPS.  But, expect the Wii to become the console of choice for FPS people?  Anyhow, would you rather I not say this, and disclose?  The other points still are out there.

 



famousringo on 14 May 2009
richardhutnik said:
Hyperion said:
lol the Conduit looks better....

What is this?
Thread fail

Of course The Conduit is better.  The question is whether or not it is 500% better, so that the value equals out (cost vs entertainment value.  And yes, I am tweaking the nose of the attempt at hyped or buzz behind "The Conduit" here, but if you want to spin this into something that is more constructive, you can look at several of these angles:

1. Price vs value, and the ability to measure this.  Like is a game worth it more as a bargain title then if it was at full price.  If so, at what point does it make sense to buy it?

2. To what extend can a small "garage game" project hold up to a full-blown production title?

3. Why the heck did someone produce an XBox Live Community game FPS?

4. How much more would you pay for a game to get added production value?

 

There are other ones also, if people care to run with it.  I believe it would be good if people do this, rather than get all defensive over "The Conduit" supposedly being "all that and a bag of chips".  We are talking a Wii FPS title here.   Are people expecting this title to be a killer app that will drive XBox 360 owners to suddenly sell their 360's and buy Wiis instead?

 

Then I guess you should have been asking if Conduit will be 400% (sorry to be pedantic, but $50 is 400% larger than $10) better than Onslaught. They're both on the same platform, removing the barrier of hardware. Onslaught also has a more comparable feature set. It uses the IR pointer instead of a thumbstick for aiming and features online multiplayer, two key features which Jonny Crush seems to lack.

Edit: Wait, you're admitting that this whole thing is just axe-grinding over people who hyped up Killzone 2 as a Halo-killer? Seriously? Stop the cycle of hate, man, you're bumming me out.



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richardhutnik on 14 May 2009
famousringo said:

Then I guess you should have been asking if Conduit will be 400% (sorry to be pedantic, but $50 is 400% larger than $10) better than Onslaught. They're both on the same platform, removing the barrier of hardware. Onslaught also has a more comparable feature set. It uses the IR pointer instead of a thumbstick for aiming and features online multiplayer, two key features which Jonny Crush seems to lack.

I took $50 over $10 as 5x greater or 500%.  Anyhow, feel free to use Onslaught as the example instead of Jonny Crush, which I did first and foremost as a tweaking of the nose of The Conduit hype.  I tried Jonny Crush demo, but didn't do Onslaught.