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twesterm said:
outlawauron said:
Mirson said:
forevercloud3000 said:

you are VERY picky of your game intersts, but that is your right. If you feel you cannot like any of the previously named games.(By the Way though, Heavenly Sword is NOT a button Masher, this is a common belief spread by people who never finished the game because there are MANY times throughout the game where you CANNOT face the enemy head on, you have to wait out an opening and pounce. It is no more a buttonmasher then anyother game).

You still should try Folklore, sounds like you might possibly like that...

PSN games seem to be the way for you at the time being. You should look into these games for the future...

Fat Princess

White Knight Chronicles

Demon's Soul

Pixel Junk series 

My friend, believe.

You're proving his point. Only people who say it's a button masher are those who never beat the game.

Case and point: twesterm only played the demo.

I only played the demo because I didn't like the game (or demo at least).  I made that video after I had already finished the demo.

Yes, but the claim that's a button masher is false.

It'd be like me coming out saying that Super Mario Galaxy is an easy game and casual-ized version of Super Mario after only getting the first star on the first planet.



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waron said:
innovation on sony platforms?
well there's LBP, Eye of Judgment...and that's all. rest of the games are just bumped up versions of ps2 games with different names or numbers after the title. i'm really waiting for Eyepet though - this could be really fun experience.

 

Thank you! You understood my point! On PS2 there were more innovations than on PS3



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outlawauron said:
Mirson said:

My friend, believe.

You're proving his point. Only people who say it's a button masher are those who never beat the game.

Case and point: twesterm only played the demo.

Oh, well you can still beat it by button mashing like I did, minus the QTEs and Kai's missions. HS is pretty much the easiest hack n slash game, next to Devil May Cry 2.



Spedfrom said:
Hapimeses said:
Laffer said:

What happened? After 3 years we have the best available FPS on a console with Killzone2, but where is the innovation? Does Sony only try to beat XBOX360 in Shooter Quality?

Alright, I'll bite. Beyond the obvious (the PS3 isn't three years old), the above statement reads like selective blindness to me. Killzone 2 is far from the peak of PS3 gaming or innovation. Indeed, I'd probably use it as an example of lack of innovation -- beyond it's graphics, it is just a damned solid FPS.

Laffer said:

The PS3 Eye is almost unused! I could imagine incedible cool games, bringing the Eyetoy stuff from PS2 to a next level? Two PS3 Eye as combo could capture 3 dimensional movements. Imaginate Wii Boxing style Game with full 3D Capture of the movements of the player! Street Fighter with full body capture....

I agree, the Eye could be used more. That said, have you played Eye of Judgement? It's a collectible card game on console. That, to me, reeks of innovation. It may not be to your tastes, but isn't that the problem with innovating? Some people may not like the new stuff, or find it too gimmicky. Doesn't change the fact that EoJ, as a single game, is pretty much unique as an experience on consoles.

Laffer said:

Where are the new ideas? The Games are always so linear, you can follow only ONE clear path in the Game worlds, no free terrain to move whereever you want...CoD WaW are examples... I want a map where I can choose my own path...

Pardon? Have you played any sandbox games? Further, what you describe is hardly a new idea, games have been doing what you suggest for a long, long time. As a few examples of titles this gen, consider GTA4, InFAMOUS, Assassin's Creed, and Burnout Paradise; however, trust me, there are many, many more.

Laffer said:

Where is a Super "ELITE" Space Simulation Game (you remember from Commodore 64) which you play online... or the XWING vs TIE-FIGHTER Star Wars Games where we can play online together and attack Star Destroyers, or defend them?

Somebody remembers Broderbonds "The Castles of Dr. Creep" on the C64? This could be an incredible cool online game, like LBP today.

Again, this isn't a new idea, it's just a genre you would like to play. However, I will concede that PS3, as of yet, doesn't have a big space simulation game. Then again, that's not exactly much of a surprise given the age of the achine and the relative lack of such titles on consoles.

As for Broderbonds "The Castles of Dr. Creep": I have no idea what that is.

Laffer said:

But what do we get? FPS, FPS and maybe a 3PS...

However, this is complete nonsense. Yes, we have FPS are two (or even three), but we also have much more. Beyond the innovations (well, the lift from Japanese arcades) such as EoJ, we have SRPGs presented in a new, innovative way with Valkyria Chronicles. We have photography-safari simulations with Afrika, where you can travel about in balloons, jeeps, on foot or whatever in a massive version of a savannah and the like. We have the gaming awesomness of MGS4. We have dragon flying with Lair. We Extreme Racing with MotorStorm. We have the user-generate joys of LBP. We have awesome air-to-air combat (and much more) with Warhawk. In fact, we have a whole bunch of titles taking new directions, especially when we turn to the PSN. Then things just get cray.

Noby Noby Boy (I challenge you to find any game like this). Flower (again, a unique experience relying on SIXAXIS alone). Pixel Junk Monsters (a new twist on Tower Defence), and Eden (a new twist on platforming). The Last Guy (another genre-mincing game -- kinda like Pac-man on acid). Linger in Shadows (an interactive movie, perhaps?). LocoRoco CocoReccho (an interactive screen saver). SIREN (an episodic game). Super Rub'A'Dub (as another example of a purely SIXAXIS game). EyeCreate (a free video-editing suit for the Eye). Elefunk (an engineering game). PAIN (catapult people into everything for points). Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battlecars (I think the title says it all). I could go on, but I'm getting bored, here.

And I've not even mentioned big games like Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, or Resistance, or Sony favourites such as Everybody's Golf, SingStar, or GT, or major updates such as WipEout HD, SOCOM, or Time Crisis 4, or RPGs such as White Knight Chronicles, Demon's Souls, or Disgaea, or the many other exclusives. And need I move on to multi-plats?

Really, you can attack Sony for many things, but attacking their current spread of games is growing increasingly unwise, especially when you look at what we know is on the horizon (and we only know a small part of the bigger picture).

Oh, and there's Heavenly Sword, and that's awesome; I don't care what anyone else thinks of the game.

 

How about you answer this post, OP? Oh wait, it killed your little flamebait thread so you chose to ignore it. Boo ooh.

 

 

Ho ho ho ho! I get slashed and hammered by my own breed...

Eye of Judgement and LBP are innovative, I agree and PS3 uniques.

I would say still the biggest part on PS3 are shooters, on PS2, maybe because of Hardware limitations, it was not.

I started the thread because SONY sold this console as a REVOLUTION and not as a pimped up PS2 (evolution).

The SIXAXIS use is quite stupid in most PS3 games. Boxing or Tennis could use it for Training mode to make you really sweat? Imaging Wii style training of your boxer using 2 PS3 controllers, or PS3 Eye? BUT NOBODY DELIVERS GAMES LIKE THIS TO PS3? WHY? Do you see how funny the ideas of many Wii games are? Just because the Hardware is CRAP, they cannot make it a FULL BLOWN game. The PS3 has the capability, but developpers concentrate on the 1293344324. version of a Shooter.

YES THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS! FUCK, I AGREED ON LBP, VALERIA CHRONICLES, EYE OF JUDGEMENT AND SOME PSN GAMES. BUT, THATS IT!

MGS4 is really the best MGS, incredible cinematics, etc.... but what is new?



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ocnkng said:
Laffer said:

What happened? After 3 years we have the best available FPS on a console with Killzone2, but where is the innovation? Does Sony only try to beat XBOX360 in Shooter Quality?

The PS3 Eye is almost unused! I could imagine incedible cool games, bringing the Eyetoy stuff from PS2 to a next level? Two PS3 Eye as combo could capture 3 dimensional movements. Imaginate Wii Boxing style Game with full 3D Capture of the movements of the player! Street Fighter with full body capture....

Where are the new ideas? The Games are always so linear, you can follow only ONE clear path in the Game worlds, no free terrain to move whereever you want...CoD WaW are examples... I want a map where I can choose my own path...

Where is a Super "ELITE" Space Simulation Game (you remember from Commodore 64) which you play online... or the XWING vs TIE-FIGHTER Star Wars Games where we can play online together and attack Star Destroyers, or defend them?

Somebody remembers Broderbonds "The Castles of Dr. Creep" on the C64? This could be an incredible cool online game, like LBP today.

But what do we get? FPS, FPS and maybe a 3PS...

 

 

While I partly agree with your point, this is true for all the consoles. I fail to see the reason why you singled out Sony.

 

 

Because I am a SONY Fanboy, or at least a PS2, PSP and PS3 owner...

 



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lolita said:

It hasn't got ONLY shooters but yes it lacks very much in some genres... Platformer, Action Adventure and RPGs... I have trouble thinking of any PS3 games I'd want to play.

I have no issues with the console itself... It's really just the library. =/

 

Thank you! I have no problem with the console itself too, but the library. I would like to see more LBP like games.



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Laffer said:
ocnkng said:

While I partly agree with your point, this is true for all the consoles. I fail to see the reason why you singled out Sony.

 

 

Because I am a SONY Fanboy, or at least a PS2, PSP and PS3 owner...

 

It's okay to single out a platform because you love it. I'm the same. I owned a PS, PS2, PS3 and PSP. I'm a Sony fan, but many people label me as an X-bot. I'll just copy and paste what I wrote before.

Hello everyone. My name is Mirson. Many of you see me as an anti-Sony person, Xbot, etc. First of all, I'm a PlayStation fan. I've been with them since 1997, and it was the best alternative I had. I used to be a huge Ninty fan back in the day, but PS won me over with its plethora of titles.

Sure I found MGS4, LBP, Heavenly Sword, Resistance and Motorstorm disappointing. I also didn't find KZ2 to be that amazing as some of you do (I'll admit the multiplayer is great, but the single player....). I did, however, enjoy Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Folklore, Warhawk and Valkyria.

I know I post a lot of anti-PS3 comments and articles, but that's because I'm very disappointed at how Sony handled this generation: losing exclusives, delays, arrogant attitude, stupid marketing. I really want them to succeeded and hope they learned their lesson. I do the same for TNA Wrestling. Whenever they do a terrible booking, I have to roll my eyes and rant about it along with Lance Storm. We both want TNA to succeed. The PlayStation consoles have provided me with more than a decade of entertainment, and I want them to continue doing it for another decade. I'm kind of sad my PS3 is dying, like my dog on that faithful morning.

I'm looking forward to what the future brings for the PS3. I'm excited for Uncharted 2 and God of War III.



I agree with Laffer's sentiment. I was expecting a lot more out of the PS3, particularly with the Eye. Where is Eyedentify, a game that was announced at launch? This is a new gen for crying out loud. Yes, graphics have improved. A few new conventions in games have become standard, but this stuff really could have been done last gen. The PS3 has the hardware, why isn't it being used more? There are many good games on PS3 of course, but we need more variety and new genres of games not possible before. Online is good, yes. But rereleasing the same franchises with better graphics and online multiplayer as the only differences is not enough. These are good filler, but should not be the backbone of the PS3's library.