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Forums - Microsoft - I'm a 360 fanboy, I will NOT be buying MGS4+ - Rant by Gebx

pearljammer on 11 May 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
pearljammer said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
pearljammer said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PullusPardus said:

Lmao.

this is fanboyism to the extreme. what you are saying is that you wont buy a game cause it made fun of formats.

i bet the DVD is your only friend ='[

 

 

WTF are you talking about? He has a lot of valid points. I don't believe it's coming on the 360 anyway, but for the 360 only people I'd feel shitty if they played this game dumbed down, because a B team ported it. MGS4 a quality game; actually, it's the only real reason I bought the PS3 initially (but since, i've found a couple games I can play). What he's doing is not fanboyism...thats the truth. My god some PS3 fanboys are blind.

Don't be so quick to call others blind.

As a gamer, I think Gebx made only two valid points:

1 - MS Marketing/Financing could of been spent on aquiring a new IP (I'm assuming MS will throw some money at Konami); and

2 - You don't use your "good" developers on a port, , Konami will use their best developers on new games, and their "B" team or "C" team to create the port. Therefore, the game is more likely to be buggy and have performance issues.

Even then, they're highly speculative (as is the whole thing anyway). I'm sure it wouldn't be a poor port regardless, especially if MS were to throw some money as he speculated in the first point I posted of his.

Some of his other points, although a few humourous, displayed fanboyism. Namely the one the person you quoted pointed out:

"MGS4 (ps3) made fun of DVD9's"

At best, that is childish.

Several other of his points shouldn't matter to a gamer (e.g. It will do poorly sales wise compared to the PS3 (Obvious I know...), which will then be used as ammo by PS3 fanboys) but he is a self-professed '360 fanboy' so I suppose that's legitimate(?).

 

MGS4 did make fun of DVD's. It was a full insult from Kojima to the owners of the 360. He's not being childish.

 

Whatever you want to say...if you say so.

Bold: I know it did. To be sulky about is what is childsih.

Italicized: Haha. Sound retort.

Edit: That was hardly an insult to 360 owners so much as it was to the hardware. Are we not being a bit oversensitive?

 

I saw it and it was definitely a dick move. Kojima shouldn't be throwing gasoline on top of an on going flame war between the 360 and PS3 and you know it.

See above.

Regardless, if it were a stab at the 360, you've already clearly shown that you were a bit sensitive to the issue in saying that it was an 'insult to 360 owners'. It was (or so we thought) a joke about a format. Hardly something to get riled up about. To someone who has no personal affiliation (as silly as that sounds) with neither console, it was simply a joke nothing more. Nobody was insulted, nothing was insinuated, nothing.

Anyhow, we're moving further and further from the point. You called someone blind and a fanboy for simply pointing out how petty a reason that was to not buy a game (which would include me as well as I have done the same). I pointed out how several other of his points were silly as well and you have refutted none, claiming them as 'truths'. E.g. Not buying a game because it will sell poorly in comparison to another version and not buying a game because of a suspicion that profits from said game will be used to support another console.

I mean, that doesn't sound absurd to you?



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MazeMe on 11 May 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kitler53 said:
does this mean it's not too early for me to boycott mass effect 1/2 on my ps3?

 

 

Mass Effect is never coming on the PS3. There is an actual rumor going around the interwebs that MGS4 is being ported and will be announced at E309.

 

 Actually, I think Mass Effect coming out on the PS3 is far more likely than MGS4 comign out on the Xbox 360. Why? Because EA publishes that game, and they like multiplatform releases quite a lot. It also wouldn't require as much effort to cheaply port an Xbox 360 game to the PS3 than the other way around, where storage issues and the likes would become a problem.

I don't really know too much about the technical aspects of games though, so don't nuke me when what I'm saying isn't true.



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kirby007 on 11 May 2009

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S.T.A.G.E. on 11 May 2009
Leonidus said:
What a bunch of fools.
Sure, go ahead and turn down one of the greatest titles to grace the planet just because of your fanboyism

He's not turning it down for fanboyism. He's turning it down because he knows it will be half-assed. If people want the game they should just buy a PS3. Thats the reason I bought mine.

Leonidus on 11 May 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Leonidus said:
What a bunch of fools.
Sure, go ahead and turn down one of the greatest titles to grace the planet just because of your fanboyism

 

He's not turning it down for fanboyism. He's turning it down because he knows it will be half-assed. If people want the game they should just buy a PS3. Thats the reason I bought mine.

Oh, well I agree with that

Why in the title does it say 'Im a 360 fanboy' then? A bit random imo

 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 11 May 2009
MazeMe said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kitler53 said:
does this mean it's not too early for me to boycott mass effect 1/2 on my ps3?

 

 

Mass Effect is never coming on the PS3. There is an actual rumor going around the interwebs that MGS4 is being ported and will be announced at E309.

 

 Actually, I think Mass Effect coming out on the PS3 is far more likely than MGS4 comign out on the Xbox 360. Why? Because EA publishes that game, and they like multiplatform releases quite a lot. It also wouldn't require as much effort to cheaply port an Xbox 360 game to the PS3 than the other way around, where storage issues and the likes would become a problem.

I don't really know too much about the technical aspects of games though, so don't nuke me when what I'm saying isn't true.

 

 

Actually, no. Konami has a higher chance of bringing any of their games over to the 360, because they were getting on Kojimas ass to bring MGS4 over to the 360. They saw what happened with GTA4 and wanted the same kind of profit. Mass Effect on the other hand was created for the Xbox 360 and PC. The only game Bioware admitted was for both PS3 and 360 was Dragon Age. When confronted about PS3, they either said "no, we have no plans for it being on the PS3" or "no comment".



pearljammer on 11 May 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Leonidus said:
What a bunch of fools.
Sure, go ahead and turn down one of the greatest titles to grace the planet just because of your fanboyism

 

He's not turning it down for fanboyism. He's turning it down because he knows it will be half-assed. If people want the game they should just buy a PS3. Thats the reason I bought mine.

How could he possibly know that? If Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance for the original Xbox is any indication, the port will be fine.



Seece on 11 May 2009

All I need is Splinter Cell, not really interested in MGS4



 

S.T.A.G.E. on 11 May 2009
pearljammer said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
pearljammer said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
pearljammer said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PullusPardus said:

Lmao.

this is fanboyism to the extreme. what you are saying is that you wont buy a game cause it made fun of formats.

i bet the DVD is your only friend ='[

 

 

WTF are you talking about? He has a lot of valid points. I don't believe it's coming on the 360 anyway, but for the 360 only people I'd feel shitty if they played this game dumbed down, because a B team ported it. MGS4 a quality game; actually, it's the only real reason I bought the PS3 initially (but since, i've found a couple games I can play). What he's doing is not fanboyism...thats the truth. My god some PS3 fanboys are blind.

Don't be so quick to call others blind.

As a gamer, I think Gebx made only two valid points:

1 - MS Marketing/Financing could of been spent on aquiring a new IP (I'm assuming MS will throw some money at Konami); and

2 - You don't use your "good" developers on a port, , Konami will use their best developers on new games, and their "B" team or "C" team to create the port. Therefore, the game is more likely to be buggy and have performance issues.

Even then, they're highly speculative (as is the whole thing anyway). I'm sure it wouldn't be a poor port regardless, especially if MS were to throw some money as he speculated in the first point I posted of his.

Some of his other points, although a few humourous, displayed fanboyism. Namely the one the person you quoted pointed out:

"MGS4 (ps3) made fun of DVD9's"

At best, that is childish.

Several other of his points shouldn't matter to a gamer (e.g. It will do poorly sales wise compared to the PS3 (Obvious I know...), which will then be used as ammo by PS3 fanboys) but he is a self-professed '360 fanboy' so I suppose that's legitimate(?).

 

MGS4 did make fun of DVD's. It was a full insult from Kojima to the owners of the 360. He's not being childish.

 

Whatever you want to say...if you say so.

Bold: I know it did. To be sulky about is what is childsih.

Italicized: Haha. Sound retort.

Edit: That was hardly an insult to 360 owners so much as it was to the hardware. Are we not being a bit oversensitive?

 

I saw it and it was definitely a dick move. Kojima shouldn't be throwing gasoline on top of an on going flame war between the 360 and PS3 and you know it.

See above.

Regardless, if it were a stab at the 360, you've already clearly shown that you were a bit sensitive to the issue in saying that it was an 'insult to 360 owners'. It was (or so we thought) a joke about a format. Hardly something to get riled up about. To someone who has no personal affiliation (as silly as that sounds) with neither console, it was simply a joke nothing more. Nobody was insulted, nothing was insinuated, nothing.

It is an insult to 360 owners and shows favoritism to the PS3. It's just like how the makers of Rockband are dicks to Sony owners and show favoritism to the 360 because they think Xbox Live is superior. Why do I say it's an insult? because the fans are the ones who get screwed in the end.

Anyhow, we're moving further and further from the point. You called someone blind and a fanboy for simply pointing out how petty a reason that was to not buy a game (which would include me as well as I have done the same). I pointed out how several other of his points were silly as well and you have refutted none, claiming them as 'truths'. E.g. Not buying a game because it will sell poorly in comparison to another version and not buying a game because of a suspicion that profits from said game will be used to support another console.

I wouldn't call you a fanboy because you at least use some reason in your debates.

 

"this is fanboyism to the extreme. what you are saying is that you wont buy a game cause it made fun of formats."

This is his quote. He called Gebx a fanboy, when Gebx stated reasonable points for not wanting a half-assed copy of the game. If he said "I don't want MGS4 because it was on the PS3", ok then I'd be on your side about it.

I mean, that doesn't sound absurd to you?

We all percieve. It's best we end it this way, because eloquence is not enough.

 

 



WiiStation360 on 11 May 2009

You should buy games based on what you want to play.

Not buying a game because of some perceived slight by a developer seems rather silly. But, it is your choice, and if it make you feel better about yourself, go for it.