ZenfoldorVGI said:
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How? It sold 3k last week. It's dead. A port wouldn't hurt Sony or help Microsoft. Be good for Konami, though.
| Dodece said: I think there is a lot of ignorance in this thread. Some members need to learn the meaning of the word publisher. It is one thing for a game that is published by a third party to cross platforms. It is another thing entirely for a game published by say a manufacturer to do so. Publishers have to pay for rights, or provide services to gain those rights. In other words they have paid dues. Now that doesn't mean that publishing rights are not renegotiable, but never expect a Microsoft or a Sony to negotiate away premiere franchises. Those are worth more then the games themselves. So this talk of Mass Effect, Gears, or Gran Tourismo are asinine. Metal Gear is a different Story Konami published their game so it can go wherever they want to take it granted that there is no contract between them, and Sony that precludes that. I would speculate this is the year where the competitors deliver their major secret projects. Microsoft probably unveils Chronicles. Sony probably unveils a new franchise. |
As shown through Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, unless the publisher owns the entire IP, there's always a way around deals like this.
As for Mass Effect, I wouldn't be surprised if they went multiplat after a time, but I expect MS to ink a deal with EA for the sequel if nothing else.
As for Gears of War, from what I understand MS only penned a deal for the first two games. While I'd expect them to also negotiate a deal with the third title after the success of the first two, I could also see Epic getting greedy, and holding out for a rather large check from the big M. For all we know, Epic thinks they could pull Call of Duty numbers if Gears went multiplat, and may be holding out for close to $100 million. Would MS be willing to pay up?
As for major mutliplatform anouncements in the future, this is what I see:
MGS4 - Definitely
ME - Maybe
Gears - This is Microsoft's big kahuna. Highly unlikely
--OkeyDokey-- said:
How? It sold 3k last week. It's dead. A port wouldn't move any 360's.
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That is a very simplistic argument.
Future HD console owners are what this announcement would be targeted at, as well as current 360 only owners. In the case of the 360 only owners, this would be a huge announcment, and a new AAA game for their console.
In the case of undecided future HD console owners, this is a major loss of a plus in the PS3 column. A very high profile PS3 exclusive(perhaps the highest selling and thus most popular one as well) now being a multiplat, WILL influence some future console purchases.
That is why it is a major announcment. How exactly is my reasoning wrong?
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ZenfoldorVGI said:
I'm gonna copy and paste my response to that statement, from another thread, instead of doing a link. Sorry for the repitition. I disagree. While I feel that lately many PS3 fanboys have been trying to downplay the possibility of losing this exclusive, it is still the best reason to own a PS3, and Sony losing it should not be taken lightly. It wouldn't be a huge announcement in a purely fiscal sense. Neither was the FFXIII thing. However, in the minds of people who haven't yet chosen a PS3 or 360, the MGS4 announcement for the 360 would be very influential, I would imagine. There is also the epic ownage to consider, of most PS3 fanboys. They have said for a long time, that the game was impossible on the 360, and that indeed the game would factually never come to the console. Just proving those absolutes wrong would be well worth my time at the conference. Reasoning it out, I don't think there could be a bigger predictable anouncement from Microsoft, than the acquisition of the PS3's biggest exclusive. For predetermined fans and current gen console owners, it means nothing(unless they are 360 fans, in which case, the news is huge). PS3 fans already have many traps set up over the past few months they set in order to marginalize the news("I played it a year ago" "MS paid for this!?" ect.) However, despite that, it is still the loss of the best current exclusive title on the Playstation 3, to multiplat status, and a major talking point for the console completely gone. Future console purchasers(the only ones that matter in the userbase war, no?) are influenced by this announcement. How is that not a megaton, you tell me? I mean, imagine the shitstorm if Gears 1 and 2 came out this December on a single BR, for the PS3. Same thing. It just wouldn't be as expected. All that said, if we can admit that we do now "expect" MGS4 multiplat to be announced for the 360, then no, it won't be a megaton. However, if, as most of you do, you insist that MGS4 will remain a PS3 exclusive, then its megaton status is still in question. You can't have it both ways. Even if it isn't a megaton, it's a huge announcment on the console war front. Denying that is denying reality, I'm sure you'd agree. |
The line I underlined is highly debateable, but it is true for many people. For those people that hold the game in such high regard, they probably already own ps3s, or have at least played the game. For those who truly care about MGS4, for those that would really be swayed between one console or another over this game, it has already served its purpose. You can't deny that.
And, like I said, it is highly expected. The game is third party. Third party titles do not stay exclusive unless they are bought (and even then they're only timed), they're incredibly niche and/or sell primarily in one territory (Yakuza), or they're quick ports from PC to 360 (Left 4 Dead, Sacred).
Will it be a big announcement? Certainly. Will it be a megaton? Hardly.
Monster Hunter 3 going ps3 exclusive to Wii exclusive. Now that was a megaton.
| makingmusic476 said:
The line I underlined is highly debateable, but it is true for many people. For those people that hold the game in such high regard, they probably already own ps3s, or have at least played the game. For those who truly care about MGS4, for those that would really be swayed between one console or another over this game, it has already served its purpose. You can't deny that. And, like I said, it is highly expected. The game is third party. Third party titles do not stay exclusive unless they are bought (and even then they're only timed), they're incredibly niche and/or sell primarily in one territory (Yakuza), or they're quick ports from PC to 360 (Left 4 Dead, Sacred). Will it be a big announcement? Certainly. Will it be a megaton? Hardly. Montser Hunter 3 going ps3 exclusive to Wii exclusive. Now that was a megaton. |
I see your point, but I disagree about 2 things.
A. People who really care about MGS4 haven't necessarily bought PS3s. People can really care about something, and not have to spend at least 460 dollars plus tax in order to enjoy it. There will ALWAYS be those who haven't upgraded to this gen. Truth of the matter is, all people who cared about Metal Gear haven't necessarily upgraded to HD consoles yet. MGS4's home will probably be a factor in their decision, just as it was in mine, and probably yours when you upgraded.
B. I've expected it from the beginning, however, it is not highly expected. In fact, the reason I think it is a big announcement, TO ME, is because most PS3 fans that I know, still, to this day, absolutely deny that it is even possible. You and I expect it. People on this forum don't. They have set themselves up for this annoucment to hurt, for years, and when it does, every quote they have ever made about how ONLY the PS3 can do MGS4, and how MGS4 will NEVER come to the 360, will be thrown in their faces, and they will eat crow. More crow than has ever been eaten before.
Can you name me one time when more crow would have been eaten, than the day after MGS4 with new content is announced for the Xbox 360?
Megaton? No, it's expected now, via rumor. Big from a console war perspective, and great news for 360 owners? Oh hell yes.
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
So basically it would be a megaton for 360 fanboys against ps3 fanboys. What about the rest of us?
| makingmusic476 said: So basically it would be a megaton for 360 fanboys against ps3 fanboys. What about the rest of us? |
No, it wouldn't be a megaton at all.
That said, megatons aren't always for everyone.
Last year, the ONLY megaton was the FFXIII announcement. It was for 360 fanboys against PS3 fanboys. The rest of you got nothing then. Right?
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
That said Makin' as for the rest of us, I hope our "megaton" is Zelda. It is the only game that is an exception to the "expected" rule. Any main console Zelda games announcement is always a megaton. Even if people hate it, it is still probably the biggest news of the show, and the entire industry pauses to examine, and comment upon it.
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
I'd say that announcement provided a little for everyone, if only because people thought it'd never happen. While in the end it didn't change much, it provided a good bit of shock value.
| makingmusic476 said: I'd say that announcement provided a little for everyone, if only because people thought it'd never happen. While in the end it didn't change much, it provided a good bit of shock value. |
I think it changed a few decisions over which console to get, in America, at least. Even a 1 thousand console swing is a lot more influential and important than most software announcements at E3 will ever be.
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
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