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akuma587 said:
And some of the posts in this thread have once again proved that its not how much the government spends that makes people upset, it is what the government spends that money on that makes people upset.

By any stretch of the imagination, our military spending is out of control. Bush's appointee to Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, wholeheartedly agrees.


The government should not be able to break contracts it's made... and promise to buy a bunch of stuff and not follow through on it.

That's my point.

Well that and if America's economy falls down to the level of other nations the only thing that is going to keep the US a world super power... (espiecally with the EU building up) is an advanced military.



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17 billion is 1/5 of 1% of budget. Yeah this is just PR spin for the masses with a wrapper of "change."



akuma587 said:
And some of the posts in this thread have once again proved that its not how much the government spends that makes people upset, it is what the government spends that money on that makes people upset.

By any stretch of the imagination, our military spending is out of control. Bush's appointee to Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, wholeheartedly agrees.

 

I assume you are not talking about me, as I said cut it all.



Kasz216 said:
akuma587 said:
And some of the posts in this thread have once again proved that its not how much the government spends that makes people upset, it is what the government spends that money on that makes people upset.

By any stretch of the imagination, our military spending is out of control. Bush's appointee to Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, wholeheartedly agrees.


The government should not be able to break contracts it's made... and promise to buy a bunch of stuff and not follow through on it.

That's my point.

Well that and if America's economy falls down to the level of other nations the only thing that is going to keep the US a world super power... (espiecally with the EU building up) is an advanced military.

Its just based on sovereign immunity.  The government has to expressly waive their liability for things or they can't be sued (unless something like the Constitution is involved).  Courts don't have the power to do this.  The legislature is the one who has to do it.

So if our economy goes off a cliff but we have a strong military, do you think we will still have the same amount of power?

We are designing weapons that are not even feasible or cost efficient based on today's technology, many of which will sit in storage because we aren't even using them based on the type of warfare we are engaging in.  We are building theoretical weapons to fight imaginary enemies and are going broke in the process.

 



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

So wait. It occurs to me that people are saying* "Huh, what change has Obama created" and then complain about his high-spending and socialist values...

Doesn't that strike anyone as a pretty big change rather than no change? I mean change is change and if you don't agree with it, it is still change.

*Not just in this thread, not just on this site.



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17 billion out of a 3.2 trillion budget :p gotta love that



highwaystar101 said:

So wait. It occurs to me that people are saying* "Huh, what change has Obama created" and then complain about his high-spending and socialist values...

Doesn't that strike anyone as a pretty big change rather than no change? I mean change is change and if you don't agree with it, it is still change.

*Not just in this thread, not just on this site.

No it doesn't seem strange.  That is why NJ and VA are going GOP for 2009 gubernatorial races by high margins and you might see a 1993-style GOP comeback.  I have seen all over Yahoo that Obama voters are pissed @ him and will not vote for him again.

 



Orca_Azure said:
17 billion out of a 3.2 trillion budget :p gotta love that

3.6 billion for the 2010 fiscal year...

 



halogamer1989 said:
highwaystar101 said:

So wait. It occurs to me that people are saying* "Huh, what change has Obama created" and then complain about his high-spending and socialist values...

Doesn't that strike anyone as a pretty big change rather than no change? I mean change is change and if you don't agree with it, it is still change.

*Not just in this thread, not just on this site.

No it doesn't seem strange. That is why NJ and VA are going GOP for 2009 gubernatorial races by high margins and you might see a 1993-style GOP comeback. I have seen all over Yahoo that Obama voters are pissed @ him and will not vote for him again.

 

Oh ok, fair enough.

 



halogamer1989 said:
Orca_Azure said:
17 billion out of a 3.2 trillion budget :p gotta love that

3.6 billion for the 2010 fiscal year...

 

Actually it is 3.44 trillion. 

The budget is going to grow to some degree every year either in real terms, based on the increase in size of the economy and the population of the country, and in nominal terms, based on increases in inflation.  So people have to take these numbers with that in mind as well.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson