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dsister44 said:
highwaystar101 said:

$317,000,000,000 on f**king defense???? seriously??? I bet that could pay for just about every other military combined, it's so much. Surely it would not hurt to cut $100,000,000,000 or so out of that?

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Turns out I'm right, and then some.

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umm.... that is kind of important. i would rather be in a country thAT is in debt then one that has a subpar army

So...then why are you complaining about the government spending too much money?

 



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i really never complained i just said it was no where as close as it needs to be.

but i think that we should stop spending so much money in iraq, they have their own money let them spend it



dsister44 said:
highwaystar101 said:

$317,000,000,000 on f**king defense???? seriously??? I bet that could pay for just about every other military combined, it's so much. Surely it would not hurt to cut $100,000,000,000 or so out of that?

--edit--

Turns out I'm right, and then some.

http://www-tc.pbs.org/wnet/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/2008/07/wa_japan_milexp_graph_new.gif

 

 

umm.... that is kind of important. i would rather be in a country thAT is in debt then one that has a subpar army

 

How would reducing military spending by 25% give you a sub par Army? It would still be near as much as the rest of the world.



To agree with some people here, we need to find ways to cut military spending. There are other steps we need to take too, like the further cutting of useless programs or taxing churches.



I agree that we need to cut spending, even on military.

My first cut? Remove 60-70% of bases overseas, including 100% in Europe.
My next cut? TARP and handout programs.
Afterwards? All porkbarrel projects. States need to be responsible for projects in their state. Stop muddying the water between state and federal responsibilities.
All the while reforming social programs like Medicare/Medicaid (more efficiency, less cost), education (more vouchers for cheaper private schools), and social security (more diversity/choice in what you can invest in).

We need to end Team America: World Police. Let the other nations butcher themselves, and show them why our military was needed in the first place. Let Europe handle problems on their continent and those around them, while we focus on our on backyard (Mexico and Latin America).



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Looks like Mr Stickball is a proud Pat Buchanan supporter, even if he may not know it.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

Pat is a Paleoconservative, therefore I am for Pat.



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mrstickball said:
Pat is a Paleoconservative, therefore I am for Pat.

 

 Now if only I could convince Halogamer to see the error of his NeoCon ways.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

Given time, NeoCons will cease to exist. They were/are a fad due to hybridization of warmongering Dems/Reagan Democrats and right-wingers. Eventually, the party, or a new one, will purify the ranks, and NeoCon-ism will reduce, and the right will *hopefully* go into a more isolationist/pacifism mode.

There's no need for us to have the expenditures we do when Europe is taking full advantage of this by sitting on their lazy backsides, and letting us to all the dirty work.



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Tyrannical said:
mrstickball said:
Pat is a Paleoconservative, therefore I am for Pat.

 

 Now if only I could convince Halogamer to see the error of his NeoCon ways.

I don't agree with the liberalism of the neocon idea of welfare--(compassionate conservatism).