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Cactus on 06 May 2009
disolitude said:
@Cactus

While all the different types of metal were created, only a few were in the commercial light. Thrash, power and classic heavy metal. I mean Megadeth toured with priest, Alice cooper, maiden, aerosmith... Metallica toured with Queensryche.

Most of the gernes you mentioned like Doom, grindcore, black and death were created in the 80s...but did not get to their commercial and critical peak until 90s...even 2000's.

I mean Carcass's best work was in 1994 and they are one of the major bands credited for establishing grindcore.

 

What does that have to do with anything, though?

 

On a side note, when I think of the fathers of grind, I think of Napalm Death over Carcass, but that's just me.

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I like Never Say Die as well. The only original Sabbath album that I can honestly say that I dislike is Technical Ecstasy.



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highwaystar101 on 06 May 2009
SciFiBoy said:

 

ok, please never, ever call Oasis or Blur "indie" there Rock (Blur are more alternative though)

i definetley like some Led Zeppelin stuff, Stairway to Heaven i have on my ipod

 

Well done you pass the test lol.

I was going to write rock, but the I thought most guys your age are part of the indie boom (which was crap lol). So I wrote indie. But yeah, I was part of the generation that grew up with Oasis and Blur who I called rock in like '98 when I was buying CDs for the first time.

To me indie was a niche genre in the 90's, confused me when they stuck the name on another more commercial genre.



SciFiBoy on 06 May 2009
highwaystar101 said:
SciFiBoy said:

 

ok, please never, ever call Oasis or Blur "indie" there Rock (Blur are more alternative though)

i definetley like some Led Zeppelin stuff, Stairway to Heaven i have on my ipod

 

Well done you pass the test lol.

I was going to write rock, but the I thought most guys your age are part of the indie boom (which was crap lol). So I wrote indie. But yeah, I was part of the generation that grew up with Oasis and Blur who I called rock in like '98 when I was buying CDs for the first time.

To me indie was a niche genre in the 90's, confused me when they stuck the name on another more commercial genre.

 

believe me, i am not part of the "indie boom" lol, i mainly listen to Rock music, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Queen, Oasis, that sort of music



The Ghost of RubangB on 06 May 2009

I gotta go with Sabbath out of all the stuff you listed, but to be honest, I'm more of a King Crimson guy, and I haven't been paying attention to new metal at all.



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disolitude on 06 May 2009
Cactus said:
disolitude said:
@Cactus

While all the different types of metal were created, only a few were in the commercial light. Thrash, power and classic heavy metal. I mean Megadeth toured with priest, Alice cooper, maiden, aerosmith... Metallica toured with Queensryche.

Most of the gernes you mentioned like Doom, grindcore, black and death were created in the 80s...but did not get to their commercial and critical peak until 90s...even 2000's.

I mean Carcass's best work was in 1994 and they are one of the major bands credited for establishing grindcore.

 

What does that have to do with anything, though?

 

On a side note, when I think of the fathers of grind, I think of Napalm Death over Carcass, but that's just me.

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@highwaystar

I like Never Say Die as well. The only original Sabbath album that I can honestly say that I dislike is Technical Ecstasy.

Well Rap metal was created in the 80s too...but it is definetly associated with the 90s. It matters when the music hits its peak if we are categorizing in groups

 



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Cactus on 06 May 2009
disolitude said:
Cactus said:
disolitude said:
@Cactus

While all the different types of metal were created, only a few were in the commercial light. Thrash, power and classic heavy metal. I mean Megadeth toured with priest, Alice cooper, maiden, aerosmith... Metallica toured with Queensryche.

Most of the gernes you mentioned like Doom, grindcore, black and death were created in the 80s...but did not get to their commercial and critical peak until 90s...even 2000's.

I mean Carcass's best work was in 1994 and they are one of the major bands credited for establishing grindcore.

 

What does that have to do with anything, though?

 

On a side note, when I think of the fathers of grind, I think of Napalm Death over Carcass, but that's just me.

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@highwaystar

I like Never Say Die as well. The only original Sabbath album that I can honestly say that I dislike is Technical Ecstasy.

Well Rap metal was created in the 80s too...but it is definetly associated with the 90s. It matters when the music hits its peak if we are categorizing in groups

 

I guess it all boils down our differing opinion with regards to whether commercialism defines the success of a genre.

 

I say we agree to disagree on that point.

 



ctk495 on 06 May 2009

I am not a big metal fan, I am more of an alt rock,punk rock guy.But antrax +Public Enemy=Win.



disolitude on 06 May 2009

@Cactus

sounds good.

Any new power/speed metal bands you are listening these days? Haven't heard a solid speed/power metal album since the last Symphony X album...which for some reason wasn't prog metal like their usual offerings.



Cactus on 06 May 2009

I can recommend Gamma Ray, since they're the pretty much the only power metal band that I listen to.

As for speed, I'm having serious trouble pinpointing any modern speed metal albums, so I'll just point to the classics, Exciter, early Motorhead, and I'm sure you listened to it, but Painkiller by Priest is a great speed metal album.



mrstickball on 06 May 2009

Speed Metal...

Temple of Blood is kinda new. Not too bad for pure speed/thrash.



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