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chamelean75 said:
I don't own a single guitar hero game so this will definitely be on my radar.

 

 

You can buy GHII/III/Aerosmith used dirt cheap.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
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ctk495 said:
Onyxmeth said:
ctk495 said:
I hate the fact that Activision keeps on milking the franchise they don´t really care about the quality only the money.I mean was it really necessary to make this game I am sure that the potential buyers for this game already own the games containing the songs of this one.Seriously now I used to be a huge Guitar Hero fan back when Harmonix was working on the series once they left it was not the same.From now on I will support Rockband.

What are you talking about? The reason they made this game is to give those older songs full band support. Up until now they've been guitar only since GH didn't add band support until World Tour. Notice how all of these songs come from the first three GH's and Rock the 80's. I would actually say that's a pretty swell thing for them to do, for those that want those earlier games more updated for today.

 

 

Come on ,your post makes it sound like Activision is naive and innocent and they want to make consumers happy.I mean Activision could give a rat ass about the " Full band support"is just another excuse  to make you buy their game so they can get more cash. Most of the people that buy the guitar hero games are usually the same that has bought the previous installements so there is no real need to make this game.They should rather focus on other ways to make the  future games more innovative.

@Sqrl

I am not saying that one is less or more commercial than the other.In fact prior to this thread  I didn´t know there was going to be a "Beatles" and a "Lego" Rockband.I am just saying that we shouldn´t try to make EA and Activision look like nice guys who only want to satisfy us consumers.

If you check the scores(on IGN) each Guitar Hero game has had a lower score than their predeccesor starting from GHIII 8.9 then GHIV 7.9. I am just saying that I don´t like the direction that franchise is going I feel it is going to  end up like Madden and soon there will be less innovation and it would just be the same game with new songs.I can´t really comment on Rockband since I have not been following the series.This is just my personal opinion and everyone if free to pick any game they want,I am not saying "Don´t buy music games!" or anything like that.

Who cares if Activision gives a shit about full band support? I gave you the reasons it was created, and those are the new features to re-release the tracks. On top of that, what publisher isn't just trying to get a buck out of us consumers? Really, get off your high horse. Giving customers what they want is exactly what publishers want to do because that is how the keep people coming back. This was being requested by GH fans ever since World Tour got released and Activision listened. That is EXACTLY what making consumers happy is.

Using IGN as an end all be all of review scores is bullshit. If we're going to use reviews, then use the averages. Guitar Hero III, Guitar Hero: World Tour and Guitar Hero: Metallica all have almost the exact same Metacritic.

Regarding Madden, I have a strong feeling you don't even play the series, so unless you actually know something about the game and can comment on what is so wrong about it, why not quit making such ignorant comments? There are those of us that actually DO play Madden that see online leagues as a pretty significant upgrade which was just created last year.



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Onyxmeth said:
ctk495 said:
Onyxmeth said:
ctk495 said:
I hate the fact that Activision keeps on milking the franchise they don´t really care about the quality only the money.I mean was it really necessary to make this game I am sure that the potential buyers for this game already own the games containing the songs of this one.Seriously now I used to be a huge Guitar Hero fan back when Harmonix was working on the series once they left it was not the same.From now on I will support Rockband.

What are you talking about? The reason they made this game is to give those older songs full band support. Up until now they've been guitar only since GH didn't add band support until World Tour. Notice how all of these songs come from the first three GH's and Rock the 80's. I would actually say that's a pretty swell thing for them to do, for those that want those earlier games more updated for today.

 

 

Come on ,your post makes it sound like Activision is naive and innocent and they want to make consumers happy.I mean Activision could give a rat ass about the " Full band support"is just another excuse  to make you buy their game so they can get more cash. Most of the people that buy the guitar hero games are usually the same that has bought the previous installements so there is no real need to make this game.They should rather focus on other ways to make the  future games more innovative.

@Sqrl

I am not saying that one is less or more commercial than the other.In fact prior to this thread  I didn´t know there was going to be a "Beatles" and a "Lego" Rockband.I am just saying that we shouldn´t try to make EA and Activision look like nice guys who only want to satisfy us consumers.

If you check the scores(on IGN) each Guitar Hero game has had a lower score than their predeccesor starting from GHIII 8.9 then GHIV 7.9. I am just saying that I don´t like the direction that franchise is going I feel it is going to  end up like Madden and soon there will be less innovation and it would just be the same game with new songs.I can´t really comment on Rockband since I have not been following the series.This is just my personal opinion and everyone if free to pick any game they want,I am not saying "Don´t buy music games!" or anything like that.

Who cares if Activision gives a shit about full band support? I gave you the reasons it was created, and those are the new features to re-release the tracks. On top of that, what publisher isn't just trying to get a buck out of us consumers? Really, get off your high horse. Giving customers what they want is exactly what publishers want to do because that is how the keep people coming back. This was being requested by GH fans ever since World Tour got released and Activision listened. That is EXACTLY what making consumers happy is.

Using IGN as an end all be all of review scores is bullshit. If we're going to use reviews, then use the averages. Guitar Hero III, Guitar Hero: World Tour and Guitar Hero: Metallica all have almost the exact same Metacritic.

Regarding Madden, I have a strong feeling you don't even play the series, so unless you actually know something about the game and can comment on what is so wrong about it, why not quit making such ignorant comments? There are those of us that actually DO play Madden that see online leagues as a pretty significant upgrade which was just created last year.

 

What is wrongw with IGN? And  since when are you so into protecting Activision?I mean I have been playing all the guitar hero games(and beat them all and  I am a member of the guitar hero community scorehero so I would know).Plus my point has been proven if you read this thread you will see that a member here stated the he owns previous games and has not interest in getting this one why would he anyway to get more of the same only with some "full band support upgrade"? If you are so into this games you can easily get the others  for cheap.I give you the reason about the madden series I mean I haven´t played them but it was just an example of a milked series I just put it there since there are people on the forums who bring it up all the time.



ctk495 said:

 

What is wrongw with IGN? And  since when are you so into protecting Activision?I mean I have been playing all the guitar hero games(and beat them all and  I am a member of the guitar hero community scorehero so I would know).Plus my point has been proven if you read this thread you will see that a member here stated the he owns previous games and has not interest in getting this one why would he anyway to get more of the same only with some "full band support upgrade"? If you are so into this games you can easily get the others  for cheap.I give you the reason about the madden series I mean I haven´t played them but it was just an example of a milked series I just put it there since there are people on the forums who bring it up all the time.

IGN does not represent the entire game reviewing community. You can't just sit there and take IGN's reviews as fact to show a decline in the series because there are plenty of other reviewers with differing opinions. You also left out GH: Metallica, which actually scored comparably on IGN with GHIII. I wouldn't expect you to actually disprove your own point though, so I'm sure you felt you had no choice but to leave it out in the hopes people forgot it released a little over a month ago.

One member in a single thread is anecdotal nonsense. It can't even qualify as anecdotal evidence, it's so weak.  Get a stronger argument.

It isn't "only full band support". Not everybody got into the game to play guitar. Some of us actually do vocals, bass or the drums, so being able to play older goodies with the instruments of our choice is a welcome addition. If you are someone that primarily plays guitar, then obviously this might not be for you. Then again, anyone saying "only with some full band support upgrade" is probably playing too much GH by himself and not in a social atmosphere. That may be fine for others, but many(including myself) only enjoy playing the games in a social environment with others. GH, GHII, GHIII, GH: Aerosmith and GH: Rock the 80's are useless to me.

Again about Madden, if you don't play the series and are only spitting tired cliched lines from other members, than I suggest you stop being a parrot and start getting your own opinions.

 



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Tyrannical said:
chamelean75 said:
I don't own a single guitar hero game so this will definitely be on my radar.

 

 

You can buy GHII/III/Aerosmith used dirt cheap.

 

Define dirt cheap............  like $40 including the guitar for PS2???



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First, on topic... Awesome track list... I can not wait, I didn't get into GH until 3, I am glad they are releasing this so I can play the old songs on my newer consoles.

Second... MOD FIGHT!!!



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Oh and I forgot another important point.

For Xbox 360 owners, they don't have access to Guitar Hero and Guitar Hero: Rock the 80s. This will be their first time.

For PS3 owners that don't have backwards compatibility, they don't have access to Guitar Hero, Guitar Hero II and Guitar Hero: Rock the 80s.

For Wii owners, they don't have access to Guitar Hero, Guitar Hero II and Guitar Hero: Rock the 80s.

So unless we are only talking about PS2 owners here, every other console in question is missing out on at least two of the following Guitar Hero titles of the past. Is that reason enough now?



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They should just release the songs as DLC, it's much better to have all the songs in one game than having to switch discs to play all the songs you want, EA does this allowing you imports songs to RB2. Other thing that I would love is Bluetooth instruments for PS3!



chamelean75 said:
Tyrannical said:
chamelean75 said:
I don't own a single guitar hero game so this will definitely be on my radar.

You can buy GHII/III/Aerosmith used dirt cheap.

Define dirt cheap............  like $40 including the guitar for PS2???

I just checked on amazon, I found GH1/2/3/aerosmith all in the $5-$10 range used with no guitar. I bet for $60 you could get a guitar and 3 or 4 GH games.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

ctk495 said:

If you check the scores(on IGN) each Guitar Hero game has had a lower score than their predeccesor starting from GHIII 8.9 then GHIV 7.9. I am just saying that I don´t like the direction that franchise is going I feel it is going to  end up like Madden and soon there will be less innovation and it would just be the same game with new songs.I can´t really comment on Rockband since I have not been following the series.This is just my personal opinion and everyone if free to pick any game they want,I am not saying "Don´t buy music games!" or anything like that.

 

If you didn't know I will tell you flat out that I despise looking at review scores.  What I did do however was go back to GH3 and onwards to look at every review from IGN of a 360 GH game after GHIII (ie Aerosmith, GH: IV, and Metallica) and read them. 

About Aerosmith they said: "Even if the formula is a bit stale by now, that doesn't make Guitar Hero: Aerosmith a bad game. In fact, if you're a huge fan of the band, of the Guitar Hero franchise, or haven't yet seen what all of the fuss is over the music rhythm phenomenon, this release will please and then some.".  When you get right down to it the game recieves a lower score for being too much like the older GH games that people loved.  And note I'm not objecting to that, games should grow and standards do change.

About World Tour there is no specific quote to give, but basically Roper has a problem with the fact that many of the band centric features of Rock Band are not implemented such as notifications for when someone in the band is floundering etc...  These are legitimate complaints and I'm not going to critique his score but the bottom line is that these are problems arising from their additions to the game not due to any feature stagnation.  A number of the problems he points out are in fact fixed in GH: Metallica and the fact that the game matches the 8.9 of your benchmark GH: III speaks volumes.

One of my pet peeves is to READ READ READ the review.  Aside from the fact that the scoring is 100% subjective you also have the issue that a 90/100 doesn't tell you WHY those 10 points are missing or WHY the game earned those 90 points it does have.  If you don't know the why, the context, you don't actually know what the scores mean..you just have a conveniant number that was subjectively assigned and will be subjectively interpreted.

Don't take this as me harping on you, I'm not trying to tell you what to think, but I do hope you consider the point I'm making about reading reviews and ignoring the scores.

The last thing I'll say, and this is directed more broadly to those with concerns like ctk not just ctk, is simply that any who liked GHIII will still enjoy every GH after GH: III...its the same core gameplay with new features added on.  If you get worn thin by the game then don't buy every installment and wait for the really good installments (ie GH2, GH3, Metallica, etc..) to get your fix.



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