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mike_intellivision on 05 May 2009

There have been multiple non-competitive consoles in recent years -- including one the Apple Bandi Pippin as well as many of the ones listed.

Sega and Microsoft were never in the market at the same time -- so there have been basically three companies since 1995. It has been a somewhat stable state.

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WiiStation360 on 05 May 2009
dolemit3 said:

See for yourself:

Generation 5 had five main competitors: Atari Jaguar, 3D0, Playstation, Sega Saturn, and Nintendo 64.

Generation 6 had four entries: Dreamcast, Playstation 2, GameCube, and Xbox.

Generation 7 currently has three consoles: Xbox 360, Playstation 3, and Wii.

Following your logic:

Generation 8 will have 2 consoles. (Nintendo & MS)

Generation 9 will have 1 console. (Nintendo or MS)

There will be no generation 10.

 



Alterego-X on 05 May 2009
dolemit3 said:

See for yourself:

Generation 5 had five main competitors: Atari Jaguar, 3D0, Playstation, Sega Saturn, and Nintendo 64.

Generation 6 had four entries: Dreamcast, Playstation 2, GameCube, and Xbox.

Generation 7 currently has three consoles: Xbox 360, Playstation 3, and Wii.

 

It looks like we will end up with only two consoles in the next generation and my guess will be: Wii 2 and Nextbox with Sony taking sometime off and will probably simply shuffle the PS3 into a slimmer model. The decrease in the number of consoles is probably due to skyrocketing cost of participating in the console race -- we are talking billions of dollars with a very high risk of big losses.

Three examples, with arguable inclusion criteria? This is hardly a historical pattern, more like a forced result. 

The failure of Atari, and Sega, were not predetermined, but caused by very specific events, that could happen again, or not. 

 

I think there is a 10%  chance for a comptitor's exit, and it is more likely than not that it will be Microsoft. 

They are not even a traditional gaming company (Sony has longer gaming roots). They only wanted to win the living-room-multimedia-center-war, lost a lot of money while trying so, and even failed the format war, they don't have no intention for releasing a new xbox with a blu-ray player.

Maybe they will try an OnLive-style system, but it could be PC-Windows based as well.

 



Smashchu2 on 05 May 2009

Ummmm, how about all the gens. The last three really don't make a trend.



Feylic on 05 May 2009

This logic is flawless. How many PHD's do you have?



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TWRoO on 05 May 2009
scottie said:
dolemit3 said:

See for yourself:

Generation 5 had five main competitors: Atari Jaguar, 3D0, Playstation, Sega Saturn, and Nintendo 64.

Generation 6 had four entries: Dreamcast, Playstation 2, GameCube, and Xbox.

Generation 7 currently has three consoles: Xbox 360, Playstation 3, and Wii.

 

It looks like we will end up with only two consoles in the next generation and my guess will be: Wii 2 and Nextbox with Sony taking sometime off and will probably simply shuffle the PS3 into a slimmer model. The decrease in the number of consoles is probably due to skyrocketing cost of participating in the console race -- we are talking billions of dollars with a very high risk of big losses.

 

If you're going to count the Jaguar and 3D0 then you should count the Vii as well...

 

Anyway, Dreamcast was a failed console (in terms of sales :P) so we can hardly count that

Saturn also failed

3D) and Jaguar flopped hard

 

gen 3 - 1 main competitor

Gen 4 - 2 main competitors

Gen 5 - 2 main competitors

Gen 6 - 3 main competitors

Gen 7 - 3 main competitors

 

So the pattern is

1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 ...

You never know, it could be: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, ...

Besides... what about Gen 1 and 2.

 



ctk495 on 05 May 2009
leo-j said:
If we do see another generation of consoles, I believe it will be something like the following:


i game - apple

Playstation 4 - sony

Super Wii - nintendo

Xbox evolution - microsoft

 

The igame sounds realistic but I am rooting for a Wii 2 rather than super wii.



elgefe02 on 05 May 2009
WiiStation360 said:
dolemit3 said:

See for yourself:

Generation 5 had five main competitors: Atari Jaguar, 3D0, Playstation, Sega Saturn, and Nintendo 64.

Generation 6 had four entries: Dreamcast, Playstation 2, GameCube, and Xbox.

Generation 7 currently has three consoles: Xbox 360, Playstation 3, and Wii.

Following your logic:

Generation 8 will have 2 consoles. (Nintendo & MS)

Generation 9 will have 1 console. (Nintendo or MS)

There will be no generation 10.

 

You win this thread

 



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radha on 05 May 2009
scottie said:
dolemit3 said:

See for yourself:

Generation 5 had five main competitors: Atari Jaguar, 3D0, Playstation, Sega Saturn, and Nintendo 64.

Generation 6 had four entries: Dreamcast, Playstation 2, GameCube, and Xbox.

Generation 7 currently has three consoles: Xbox 360, Playstation 3, and Wii.

 

It looks like we will end up with only two consoles in the next generation and my guess will be: Wii 2 and Nextbox with Sony taking sometime off and will probably simply shuffle the PS3 into a slimmer model. The decrease in the number of consoles is probably due to skyrocketing cost of participating in the console race -- we are talking billions of dollars with a very high risk of big losses.

 

If you're going to count the Jaguar and 3D0 then you should count the Vii as well...

 

Anyway, Dreamcast was a failed console (in terms of sales :P) so we can hardly count that

Saturn also failed

3D) and Jaguar flopped hard

 

gen 3 - 1 main competitor

Gen 4 - 2 main competitors

Gen 5 - 2 main competitors

Gen 6 - 3 main competitors

Gen 7 - 3 main competitors

 

So the pattern is

1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 ...

LOL great find great pattern

 



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scottie on 05 May 2009

@ radha - cheers

@ anyone who thinks the igame is a potential name. You are wrong, if Apple enter the home console, it will be an upgraded model of the iTV

@ TWR - it could easily be that. My point is that if we are looking for a trend, it is certainly an increasing one.

As for gen 2, I'm pretty sure it had only the Atari 2600. So assuming gen 1 had 0 contenders, my pattern holds :P