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txrattlesnake said:
Now my mom does say Obama isn't doing enough to help senior citizens and she says food costs are too high (but I blame that on the wealthy corporations that aren't pleased with Obama's plans to help out the poorer citizens wanting to compensate for his plans by driving up the price of food.)

You know who would of helped lower the price of food?

John McCain.

You know why food is so expensive?

Alternative energy.  Ethanol. 

Obama wants to increase the Ethanol we use instead of decrease it.  All subsidies for corn based ethanol should be removed.

If it did  food would flood the markets lowering the prices of food and helping ease the world hunger crisis.

Largely caused by biofuel programs. (according to the Un.)

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_11934.cfm

The corn lobby has it's hands to far in Obama's pockets for that though.



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Mccain wouldn't have done anything to help the poor. All people like that really want is more in their own coffers and less in everybody else's. Its why he left the election to go check on the bailouts because he wanted to make sure his wife's beer empire was going to be taken care of.



McClaren said:
TheRealMafoo said:


Are you kidding me? This is the same logic that Bush used to enter the war in Iraq. They won’t let us look for WMD’s, then they must have them, and we will act accordingly.

I don't think Obama is going to add these corporations to the Axis of Evil. :)

 

 

Corporations have been a part of Obama's personal "Axis of Evil" for a long time.

Both presidents have those they despise. For Bush, it was Iraq. For Obama, it's big business.

He ran on a campaign of putting down corporations, and how they are what's wrong with the US. When Wall Street spends 165 million in bonuses (money they were contractually obligated to disperse by the way), Obama is "Outraged", yet with the leader of Iran calls Israel the most cruel and repressive racist regime, Obama is "disappointed".

Good thing we have a congress. Let's hope they start doing there job.



Kasz216 said:
txrattlesnake said:
Now my mom does say Obama isn't doing enough to help senior citizens and she says food costs are too high (but I blame that on the wealthy corporations that aren't pleased with Obama's plans to help out the poorer citizens wanting to compensate for his plans by driving up the price of food.)

You know who would of helped lower the price of food?

John McCain.

You know why food is so expensive?

Alternative energy.  Ethanol. 

Obama wants to increase the Ethanol we use instead of decrease it.  All subsidies for corn based ethanol should be removed.

If it did  food would flood the markets lowering the prices of food and helping ease the world hunger crisis.

Largely caused by biofuel programs. (according to the Un.)

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_11934.cfm

The corn lobby has it's hands to far in Obama's pockets for that though.

It all relates to where you live also. Here in Texas food prices haven't changed a whole lot. Plus a lot of farmers around here love Ethanol.

My friend's dad swithed over from growing 100% cotton to 50% corn and 50% cotton about ten years back because he saw the need for the crop in the future.

It has help open up different opportunities of where to sell his product.

While other parts of the U.S. are raising food prices and don't see the benefit because they don't grow corn.

 



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TheRealMafoo said:
McClaren said:
TheRealMafoo said:


Are you kidding me? This is the same logic that Bush used to enter the war in Iraq. They won’t let us look for WMD’s, then they must have them, and we will act accordingly.

I don't think Obama is going to add these corporations to the Axis of Evil. :)

 

 

Corporations have been a part of Obama's personal "Axis of Evil" for a long time.

Both presidents have those they despise. For Bush, it was Iraq. For Obama, it's big business.

He ran on a campaign of putting down corporations, and how they are what's wrong with the US. When Wall Street spends 165 million in bonuses (money they were contractually obligated to disperse by the way), Obama is "Outraged", yet with the leader of Iran calls Israel the most cruel and repressive racist regime, Obama is "disappointed".

Good thing we have a congress. Let's hope they start doing there job.

 

      Yeah, helping out the largest group of citizens (I would say that is most people making under $50,000.00 a year, rather than the minority probably those making over $250,000.00 and the handful of billionaires that are the heads of big business.



So how do you feel about them raising taxes for the highest margin from 36% to 39%?



txrattlesnake said:
TheRealMafoo said:
McClaren said:
TheRealMafoo said:


Are you kidding me? This is the same logic that Bush used to enter the war in Iraq. They won’t let us look for WMD’s, then they must have them, and we will act accordingly.

I don't think Obama is going to add these corporations to the Axis of Evil. :)

 

 

Corporations have been a part of Obama's personal "Axis of Evil" for a long time.

Both presidents have those they despise. For Bush, it was Iraq. For Obama, it's big business.

He ran on a campaign of putting down corporations, and how they are what's wrong with the US. When Wall Street spends 165 million in bonuses (money they were contractually obligated to disperse by the way), Obama is "Outraged", yet with the leader of Iran calls Israel the most cruel and repressive racist regime, Obama is "disappointed".

Good thing we have a congress. Let's hope they start doing there job.

 

      Yeah, helping out the largest group of citizens (I would say that is most people making under $50,000.00 a year, rather than the minority probably those making over $250,000.00 and the handful of billionaires that are the heads of big business.

It all depends on what you think "helping out" is. 

Do I think Obama has the people of the US's best interests in mind when he makes his decisions? Yes.

Doing what you think is best for the people, and doing what is best for the people, are not always the same thing. In fact, in most cases, they are never the same thing.

 



txrattlesnake said:
TheRealMafoo said:
McClaren said:
TheRealMafoo said:


Are you kidding me? This is the same logic that Bush used to enter the war in Iraq. They won’t let us look for WMD’s, then they must have them, and we will act accordingly.

I don't think Obama is going to add these corporations to the Axis of Evil. :)

 

 

Corporations have been a part of Obama's personal "Axis of Evil" for a long time.

Both presidents have those they despise. For Bush, it was Iraq. For Obama, it's big business.

He ran on a campaign of putting down corporations, and how they are what's wrong with the US. When Wall Street spends 165 million in bonuses (money they were contractually obligated to disperse by the way), Obama is "Outraged", yet with the leader of Iran calls Israel the most cruel and repressive racist regime, Obama is "disappointed".

Good thing we have a congress. Let's hope they start doing there job.

 

      Yeah, helping out the largest group of citizens (I would say that is most people making under $50,000.00 a year, rather than the minority probably those making over $250,000.00 and the handful of billionaires that are the heads of big business.

Well... that would make him like Bush then.  After all Bush was the best president at slowing the growth of the Gini Coeffcient since WW2.

People always accuse Bush of letting "The rich get richer while the poor get pooer" but statistically... he did it the least.

Me i think you represent all the people.  There are plenty of cases where disciminating against small groups leads to big benefits... but said cases are still wrong.

 



McClaren said:
So how do you feel about them raising taxes for the highest margin from 36% to 39%?

 

I think it's means nothing.

My boss and his wife made 110K last year. They have three kids, and own a home. The total income tax they paid, was 10k.

They paid less then 10% in taxes, and they are in a high tax bracket.

We need a flat tax, and we need it now.

Also, the answer is not more taxes (not that I am against it if we need it). The answer is less spending. Our government is spending ungodly amounts of money.