griffinA said:
Not really according to this thread: http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=71027 All of the so-called FPS hardcore fans say that Halo is an average FPS that doesn't deserve great sales.
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1 Billion Matches played online...That's hardcore
And that thread is full of Fail...You should read the post...
Zizzla_Rachet said:
FAIL!!!! Halo Is so Hardcore |
Not that I want this thread to devolve into one of those debates, but Halo is easily on of the most casual games out there, in the sense that the bulk of Halo's userbase are not gamers, they are regular dudes who buy Halo, Madden, and maybe a Call of Duty or two.
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Zizzla_Rachet said:
1 Billion Matches played online...That's hardcore And that thread is full of Fail...You should read the post... |
Wait so you're saying if you're popular you're hardcore? cause Wii Sports, Play, Mario Kart Wii and Peggle are pretty popular...
Or are you saying that playing games online is hardcore? cause I know plenty of casual players that play solitare, peggle and space invaders online so are they then hardcore?
"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."
"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."
blaydcor said:
Not that I want this thread to devolve into one of those debates, but Halo is easily on of the most casual games out there, in the sense that the bulk of Halo's userbase are not gamers, they are regular dudes who buy Halo, Madden, and maybe a Call of Duty or two.
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This actually strenghthens the OP...There are such things as the FPS Elite...Which are the People playing WolfenStien and CounterStrike on their PC...Halo falls in with Quake and it is acurate to say that most Madden players would go to halo for a few hours of FPS...But the same can be said for Call of Duty...The fact is that the Game scence has broken down into Elite's and Generic...Or to say other wise causual and hardCore....But the fact still stands...Casuals would not spend so much time playing games...That is what defines "Hardcore" People who spend alot of time Playing games.....As for Elite and generic or "MainStream"...would I be wrong in calling Tekken Players Casual becuase I prefer Virtua Fighter?
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griffinA said:
Wait so you're saying if you're popular you're hardcore? cause Wii Sports, Play, Mario Kart Wii and Peggle are pretty popular...
Or are you saying that playing games online is hardcore? cause I know plenty of casual players that play solitare, peggle and space invaders online so are they then hardcore?
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Your way out of Context..You can't compare those games to an FPS game...That to me is really senseless....
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Your way out of Context..You can't compare those games to an FPS game...That to me is really senseless.... |
Why can't they be compared? They're both video games...
"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."
"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."
griffinA said:
Why can't they be compared? They're both video games...
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Because it doesn't suit his argument, of course.
Zizzla_Rachet said:
This actually strenghthens the OP...There are such things as the FPS Elite...Which are the People playing WolfenStien and CounterStrike on their PC...Halo falls in with Quake and it is acurate to say that most Madden players would go to halo for a few hours of FPS...But the same can be said for Call of Duty...The fact is that the Game scence has broken down into Elite's and Generic...Or to say other wise causual and hardCore....But the fact still stands...Casuals would not spend so much time playing games...That is what defines "Hardcore" People who spend alot of time Playing games.....As for Elite and generic or "MainStream"...would I be wrong in calling Tekken Players Casual becuase I prefer Virtua Fighter? |
I think you just won the thread, even now we are having problems on deciding on what hardcore is...maybe there is no hardcore or casuals..just a bunch of elitist who need to be separate themselves from there less active VG players
griffinA said:
Why can't they be compared? They're both video games...
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That's like comparing RPG's to RTS....That why we have Genre tittle's....they define what the context and content and also specify how they play and what their format is compared to previous games thought gaming history....If your gonna say that they should be comparable because they are both video games then why might as well throw the ESRB out the window too...
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