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What about when Sony decided to add two analog sticks to the PS1 mid-generation? Same thing right?



 

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pbroy said:
axumblade said:
StanGable said:
Sony took backward compability to the PS3 to people that where unaware of this, didn't they just screwed millions of people that way??? Don't give me that typical "the PS2 is only $99! Go buy one you poor bum" cuz there's actual smart people that like to invest their money rather than throw it away

 

Actually, I'm personally going with the "the PS2 was last generation. The ps3 is this generation." Hell, before the Playstation 2, there weren't any backwards compatible games for home consoles.

And I understand the reasoning too. Adding in a new analog stick would basically put the PSP into the "next generation." The UMD's might be an issue but I think Sony could easily fix it by having a small external UMD drive or something along those lines.

 

Actually there was.

 

Also, the Atati 7800 was also backwards-compatible with the 2600.



LOL no I'm address the OP not you axum :P



 

puffy said:
What about when Sony decided to add two analog sticks to the PS1 mid-generation? Same thing right?

 

 On paper it doesnt sound to different, but when put into working practise there is a big difference between the two.

Biggest point is this:  Shelling out £25 on a new control pad doesnt seem so bad.  Its fairly cheap, its new, its shiny.  Its on the PS1 so chances are a few million are going to pay out a relatively small sum of cash for it.  So you can Just say "Hey this game is Dualshock Only.  No pad, no play"  Its like Guitar Hero, you need to get a new controller to play it, only its much cheaper than Guitar Hero. No pad, no play, no higher development costs.

Adding a second stick to the PSP means people wanting to have this new control system are not forking out £25, they are splashing around £199 for what is really the same hardware, but with another stick.  People are far less likely to hand over that sort of money to buy a new machine to play one or two new games.

The not so big point is this: Sony is having a hard enough time shifting PSP games outside of Japan as it is.  lets be honest now, the FPS is really the only game style that is goin to make good use of a second stick.  A genre that doesnt go down too well in Japan as it is.  From a business point of view releasing a whole new hardware line of PSP in the hope that western studio start making cracking FPS games for PSP and we all start buying them is just too much of a risk too take.



Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

Nintendo did it with the DSi, so why cant Sony do it with the PSP. There are going to be games that are DSi only, so why cant a few games be PSP2 only?



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axumblade said:
pbroy said:
@axumblade

haha.. how dare you forget about SEGA. ¬_¬

It's only because I never owned their home consoles and never stared at my friends when I would go to their houses. I was Nintendo only for the 3 through the early parts of the 5th generations.

I did own a game gear...which i loved more then my gameboy (x-men game gear games >>>> gameboy simpsons games) but no home consoles.

Well actually there was a converter for the Sega Game Gear as well. It was called the MasterGear Converter and it let you play Sega Master System games on your Game Gear!

http://www.myds.com.au/NewsDetail.aspx?id=493

I never actually owned any of the converters, but I did have a Game Gear and Genesis, back in the day :D




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Vetteman94 said:
Nintendo did it with the DSi, so why cant Sony do it with the PSP. There are going to be games that are DSi only, so why cant a few games be PSP2 only?

 

Apart from the obvious PSP2 mistake, Nintendo have not actually done anything yet.  Yes the machine is released with the improvements we all know about, but so far not a single DSi only game has been released so there is no yard stick to measure if this two tier software situation actually works yet.

Nintendo are also in a different place to Sony.  Right now Nintendo are the kings of casual market and the general public are lapping up what ever hardware the big N decide to release.   But the state of the software side of things is a different matter.  Will the casual market really start buying enough games on the DSi to warrent studios to bring out DSi only games?  Only time will tell, but my faith in the casual market is not strong.



Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

only777 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Nintendo did it with the DSi, so why cant Sony do it with the PSP. There are going to be games that are DSi only, so why cant a few games be PSP2 only?

 

Apart from the obvious PSP2 mistake, Nintendo have not actually done anything yet.  Yes the machine is released with the improvements we all know about, but so far not a single DSi only game has been released so there is no yard stick to measure if this two tier software situation actually works yet.

Nintendo are also in a different place to Sony.  Right now Nintendo are the kings of casual market and the general public are lapping up what ever hardware the big N decide to release.   But the state of the software side of things is a different matter.  Will the casual market really start buying enough games on the DSi to warrent studios to bring out DSi only games?  Only time will tell, but my faith in the casual market is not strong.

What?

Also i do beleive that there are games already in development for the DSi only.

 

 



Vetteman94 said:

Also i do beleive that there are games already in development for the DSi only.

 

 Im sure there is, but untill these titles are released and their sales are tracked, the sucess is yet to be proven.



Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

Just to throw it out there, the analog nub was never meant for gaming in my opinion, it seemed more like a mouse replacement for browsing the internet on the psp I found the analog nub very usefull for that application.

It reminds me of the black and white buttons on the origional xbox, those buttons were never meant to be action buttons, but yet developers still used it for action buttons, in Halo you used one of the buttons to turn on a flashlight, just to prove my point.

The analog nub on the psp is not meant for gaming, it's meant to act as mouse for browsing on the internet on the psp and for some other non-gaming applications.