may i remind you that before ps1 era, no rpg reached europe and a few reached NA. it is only with ps2 that even little games like the nippon ichi games were released everywhere.

And don't speak for NA not receiving tales, please.

Japan receives everything.

NA received Phantasia (gba), destiny (ps1), eternia (your destiny 2, which is why noone outside of japan has the real destiny 2, thanks namco america, ps1), symphonia (gc), legendia, abyss, tos 2 and vesperia. you didn't receive : destiny 2 (ps2 and psp), rebirth (same), tempest (ds), innocence (ds), hearts (ds) and some destiny remakes (ps2). When you think of it, NA receives all consoles tales games since symphonia, including lost in Atlantic ocean legendia and abyss.

Europe received : phantasia (gba), eternia (psp), symphonia 1 (gc) and has not yet received vesperia and tos 2 but will receive them.

we didn't receive : destiny (ps1 and remakes), destiny 2, rebirth, legendia, abyss, tempest, innocence, hearts and not yet tos 2 and vesperia.

still thinking nothing arrives?

What are you talking about? Europe getting screwed doesn't excuse Namco, it adds to my point.

no, it add to the point that US guys are complaining for some bullshit reason cause the only games they can't get their hands on are destiny 2 and its psp port and it's because of a name problem, rebirth ps2 and psp and the ds games, 3 games and you don't know if hearts is planned or not.

So when the only games you don't have are 5 games out of almost 15 (which means 1/3, not 50%) and one because of a stupid renaming while europe has 5 out of 15 when counting tos 2 and vesperia, you can't say you don't get the games.

the number of games you don't get is the number the europeans gets, so please don't say you don't see games coming, even 50%, when you get 66% of them.

You miss 5 games in almost 7 years (destiny 2 was released in 2002), we miss 10 games for as long as 12 years (destiny 1 was released in 1997), so don't say you don't receive tales games.

You do receive tales games.  If you want to make your point true, do not say NA doesn't get games, say that for europe.

Europe is not getting namco's attention, but don't say they don't release tales in NA, it's not true. European would love to get your "non released tales games" rate.

So no, it doesn't add to your point. in fact, apart from these 5 tales game and xenosaga 1, you got every rpg from namco that i know about, 2 xenosaga and 2 baten kaitos, while europe got 1 xenosaga and 1 baten kaitos, so no you can't say you don't receive games from namco.

By the way, magna carta 2 is edited by namco, while tales of is a series developed by namco, it makes a whole difference.

You talk about bullshit and yet all I see of it is in your reply.

We didn't get Phantasia PS1, Destiny 2, Rebirth, Narikiri Dungeon, Summoner's Lineage, Narikiri Dungeon 2, Destiny Remake, Eternia PSP, Narikiri Dungeon 3, Tempest, Tactics, Breaker, Phantasia PSP, Warheit, Commons, Innocence, Fandom Vol 1 or 2, or Eternia Online. Hearts, Radiant Mythology 2 and Graces are completely up in the air. So yeah, I think I can mention that we didn't get some Tales games.

So boo hoo, you're from Europe and you got screwed even harder. It's not my problem, but when you throw your tantrum at me but act like Namco is this holy spectacle you forfeit any and all complaints. Attacking me because Namco screwed you over is completely asinine. Get over yourself and direct your complaints where they belong, because I've said what I have to say and the point remains. It doesn't matter that Namco is only publishing Magna Carta, it's a hell of a lot more than what they've done for their own series.

you got phantasia from at least one version. destiny 2 you know why you and us don't have it. destiny, why bitching about the remake? us europeans doesn't have any. besides, 90% of what you mentions are spin off.

you didn't get spin off, don't cry, there is a reason it's called spin off you know.  what would you add next to say you don't receive tales things, keys holder with tales characters? coffee mugs with arche on it? some other goodies?

Namco is not some holy thing, just don't say you don't get main series tales game, because it's wrong, as said before, you got 66% of that main series.

As for myself, i'm not bitching about namco, i don't care about tales anymore, it became shitty with what americans thinks to be the "new beginning of the series", as abyss (in fact that new beginning was symphonia) was released.

they will release vesperia in europe, and you know what? i don't care, i buy star ocean 4 instead.

so no, you get games, we don't get some and that was not my point, my point was that you get games, not that we don't get some, so you can't tell you don't receive them.

and so what, you want them to release game boy games on xbla to make sure you don't bitch about them? how many main tales don't you get since symphonia? only ds games, so.... and ds is free zone in case you don't know, so in fact you have them.

you received all tales games since symphonia, what more do you ask, a "tales collection forever lost games" on xbla?