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Words Of Wisdom on 29 April 2009
Torillian said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Torillian said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Torillian said:
Xen said:
VC and Disgaea are not JRPGs.

If you can tell me an easily defined difference that keeps SRPGs from being a sub genre of JRPG then go right ahead.  But I don't think there is.

Strategy != Japanese.  To say otherwise is racist against non-Japanese.

well yeah, which is why SWRPG's and SJRPG's exist.  Most just end up to be SJRPG's.  Strategy RPG's are a specific battle system for W or JRPG's, not a different genre.

Look up the meaning of the word "genre" and see if you can still make this argument.

and I know the meaning of sub genre too, want me to tell you how I think JRPG and SRPG are related again, is it really that difficult?  My way is simple and makes logical sense.  And if you could just make an argument instead of condescendingly telling me to go do research it would be appreciated.

There is no argument to be made.  We have established and accepted genres such as WRPG, JRPG, T/SRPG, ARPG, and more. 

I assumed you were arguing based on not understanding what a genre is or how they differ from one another.  Now I see you're arguing that they should work differently.  Good for you, however your personal beliefs don't matter.



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Torillian on 29 April 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
Torillian said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Torillian said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Torillian said:
Xen said:
VC and Disgaea are not JRPGs.

If you can tell me an easily defined difference that keeps SRPGs from being a sub genre of JRPG then go right ahead.  But I don't think there is.

Strategy != Japanese.  To say otherwise is racist against non-Japanese.

well yeah, which is why SWRPG's and SJRPG's exist.  Most just end up to be SJRPG's.  Strategy RPG's are a specific battle system for W or JRPG's, not a different genre.

Look up the meaning of the word "genre" and see if you can still make this argument.

and I know the meaning of sub genre too, want me to tell you how I think JRPG and SRPG are related again, is it really that difficult?  My way is simple and makes logical sense.  And if you could just make an argument instead of condescendingly telling me to go do research it would be appreciated.

There is no argument to be made.  We have established and accepted genres such as WRPG, JRPG, T/SRPG, ARPG, and more. 

I assumed you were arguing based on not understanding what a genre is or how they differ from one another.  Now I see you're arguing that they should work differently.  Good for you, however your personal beliefs don't matter.

Words cannot express how much I loathe you right now.

OK, so you just differentiated ARPG and JRPG, so then would you say that KH should not be included in a JRPG list such as this one?

also, give me a clear definition of JRPG.

 



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The Anarchyz on 29 April 2009

Final Fantasy VIII
Dragon Quest III
Final Fantasy X
Dragon Quest VIII
Chrono Trigger



griffinA on 29 April 2009

Chrono Trigger
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG
Pokemon Gold/Silver
Final Fantasy 4



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Christhor on 29 April 2009
Torillian said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Torillian said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Torillian said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Torillian said:
Xen said:
VC and Disgaea are not JRPGs.

If you can tell me an easily defined difference that keeps SRPGs from being a sub genre of JRPG then go right ahead.  But I don't think there is.

Strategy != Japanese.  To say otherwise is racist against non-Japanese.

well yeah, which is why SWRPG's and SJRPG's exist.  Most just end up to be SJRPG's.  Strategy RPG's are a specific battle system for W or JRPG's, not a different genre.

Look up the meaning of the word "genre" and see if you can still make this argument.

and I know the meaning of sub genre too, want me to tell you how I think JRPG and SRPG are related again, is it really that difficult?  My way is simple and makes logical sense.  And if you could just make an argument instead of condescendingly telling me to go do research it would be appreciated.

There is no argument to be made.  We have established and accepted genres such as WRPG, JRPG, T/SRPG, ARPG, and more. 

I assumed you were arguing based on not understanding what a genre is or how they differ from one another.  Now I see you're arguing that they should work differently.  Good for you, however your personal beliefs don't matter.

Words cannot express how much I loathe you right now.

OK, so you just differentiated ARPG and JRPG, so then would you say that KH should not be included in a JRPG list such as this one?

also, give me a clear definition of JRPG.

 

 

The definition of JRPG is a Role-playing game made in Japan, that's all that's to it. SRPGs are certainly a sub-genre coming of JRPGs. The only real difference is the gameplay, other than that they are exactly the same games...



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Words Of Wisdom on 29 April 2009
Torillian said:

Words cannot express how much I loathe you right now.

Getting upset never helps anything.  If you feel like getting mad then take a deep breath and calm down.

 

Torillian said:

OK, so you just differentiated ARPG and JRPG, so then would you say that KH should not be included in a JRPG list such as this one?

also, give me a clear definition of JRPG.

Be clear about what you're asking here.  My personal opinion differs from the established norm as does yours.  The difference is that I recognize that my opinion != established/accepted norms.

My opinion is that Kingdom Hearts is an ARPG (as is the accepted one).

The widely accepted definition of JRPG is any RPG that comes out of Japan and doesn't fall into a more specific category (A/S/T...etc).  The more niche subgenres override the larger ones.  For example, Disgaea is recognized as an sRPG and not a jRPG.  Kingdom Hearts is an aRPG and not a jRPG.

My personal opinion is that RPGs should be classified by battle/character system.  jRPG is synonymous with turn-based RPG to me.  This is why it's so easy to distinguish jRPG, sRPG, and aRPG for me.  They all have widely different battle systems.  I haven't figured out a good test for wRPG yet though.



Torillian on 29 April 2009

But how do you define "widely accepted or established" definitions. Here's some Wikipedia definitions.

jRPG - a Roll playing game from Japan or "the majority of console roll playing games"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JRPG
sRPG - This sub-genre of role-playing game principally refers to games which incorporate gameplay from strategy games as an alternative to traditional RPG systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRPG

All I have done is said that a game being a sRPG does not negate the fact that it also came from Japan.

All JRPG means is an RPG from Japan, and then there are separations within that.



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Mendicate Bias on 29 April 2009

1) Golden Sun (GBA)

2) Golden Sun II (GBA)

3) Dragon Warrior Monster (GBA)

4) Fire Emblem 6 (GBA)

5) Pokemon Silver (GBA)

Please tell me someone here as played the GBA version of dragon warrior monster, such a fun epic game and so few people I know have ever played it :(



                                           

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largedarryl on 29 April 2009

It's hard to list this as in only 5 games, but here is a list in no particular order

Final Fantasy 3 (NA)
Chrono Trigger
Ogre Battle: TMoBQ
Ogre Battle: 64
Suikoden 2
Fire Emblem: RD
Secret of Mana
Earthbound



Rawrizard on 29 April 2009

Hmmmm

Final Fantasy VII
Xenogears
Tales of Destiny
Super Mario RPG
Final Fantasy IV