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Usually I see the conservative guys (if not some of the more libertarian guys out to stop the NWO, as they see it) theorizing that a civil war is brewing. Not a liberal.  This thread gave me a chuckle.



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akuma587 said:

What rules have changed?  States don't have to take federal money if they don't want it.  The federal government doesn't tax states directly.  And do you honestly think that the states would not have to jack up their tax rates to maintain themselves as a national entity?

And the states have been SO benevolent with their powers. They were certainly not the ones who have committed some of the biggest atrocities to the Constitution. I find it laughable that people still stand by state's rights when states have so thoroughly abused their power that it has been increasingly taken away from them as the country has gone on.

Not to mention the Confederacy was a miserable failure as a working model of government.  Its not like the states who seceded even had a good alternative.  Imagine trying to coordinate something like a comprehensive counter-terrorism program between a bunch of states who can't agree on anything?  Not to mention even Mexico or Canda could probably take on just about any state that seceded.

I can't even believe we are having a serious talk about secession THREE MONTHS into Obama's presidency considering how any liberals who criticized the government were lambasted as traitors.  At least they never suggested secession.

 

How so?

I mean, how could you even possibly tell?  The Confederacy was around for only 5 years, and was being shred to ruins by an invading force the entire time.

Miles long stretches of land were being pillaged, with towns like Colombus, Georgia being completely burned to the ground without so much as a warning.  You can't judge a government in such a situation.



Obama's approval rating has IMPROVED over 10% since October. Does that usually happen right before a civil war?



I doubt the ability for the US to amass a common mentality and camaraderie needed to bring about a civil war, as was available in the days of the Civil War. With the computer age and individualism, society is just too different from person to person to start a revolutionary change in way of a national divide. Change can still happen, but not by methods that would separate the country. Unless other factors get involved, like a physical destruction of our government to the point of mass panic and disorganization.

 

It's easy for people on the outside to look at a situation and think civil unrest, but I don't think many people fully understand just how united the US is in our differences.  We can be extreme in our differences and have no problem voicing those extremes if we need to, but while this would divide some societies, it is actually what shapes who we are and holds us together in many ways.  No matter how many people think one way, you can find many people who think another way, and yet more still who think another or in between.  And as long as we live in this country, our voice is a part of the whole.  As long as several people think similar, which is usually the case, then there is the ability to modify the whole in some degree, and even effect how others think somewhere down the line.  I also think that most of us understand that while we think one way, others who live here think differently, and beyond voicing what we believe, there is a point that we must accept that fact.  Plus, when the Civil War took place, there were MANY more factors instigating it than there are now.