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akuma587 said:

What rules have changed?  States don't have to take federal money if they don't want it.  The federal government doesn't tax states directly.  And do you honestly think that the states would not have to jack up their tax rates to maintain themselves as a national entity?

And the states have been SO benevolent with their powers. They were certainly not the ones who have committed some of the biggest atrocities to the Constitution. I find it laughable that people still stand by state's rights when states have so thoroughly abused their power that it has been increasingly taken away from them as the country has gone on.

Not to mention the Confederacy was a miserable failure as a working model of government.  Its not like the states who seceded even had a good alternative.  Imagine trying to coordinate something like a comprehensive counter-terrorism program between a bunch of states who can't agree on anything?  Not to mention even Mexico or Canda could probably take on just about any state that seceded.

I can't even believe we are having a serious talk about secession THREE MONTHS into Obama's presidency considering how any liberals who criticized the government were lambasted as traitors.  At least they never suggested secession.

 

How so?

I mean, how could you even possibly tell?  The Confederacy was around for only 5 years, and was being shred to ruins by an invading force the entire time.

Miles long stretches of land were being pillaged, with towns like Colombus, Georgia being completely burned to the ground without so much as a warning.  You can't judge a government in such a situation.