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So the choices are between....

World History... and US history.

The US is in the world... hiliarious futurama quotes aside... so i'm saying world history.



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Also if we're playing a "most influential history" game.

I call China.



I personally like World History, although American History and European History are pretty interesting



   

I like my countries history (USA) but its far to short only 300 years I would rather go over British Greek roman but every country's history intertwine together meaning its hard to understand history as a whole if you don't have a full picture



Killzowned said:

Wow, you won a war hundreds of years ago fighting in your home territory, whilst the enemy came from thousands of miles away and therefore it was a logistical nightmare to organise the war. Not to mention the French played a huge role in that war.

Fact is, British history < American history. Without Britain, the world would not be industrialised to anywhere near the extent it is today. I could talk forever about this, but I really should revise for my exams.

Also, lol @ the person who thinks the U.S saved Europe 3 times. In World War One you entered the war late on and were not needed. In World War Two, it was the Soviets who dealt BY FAR the greatest toll on Germany. Also, you started the cold war, so without you we would have been fine, because the war would never have happened.

 

I think you forgot the war where we destroyed your army a second time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

I Don't think America saved europe 3 times.. It was only once. Although we did help end world war I (we were kind of the closer on that) In WWII we helped russia and England in so many ways they couldn't have won without us..In the Cold War I guess we were essential. If you think otherwise, who else could take on russia? Luxembourg? So we only saved europe once (WWII), but that does not mean if things had turned out differently (like if the cold war blew up and so forth) that we wouldn't have been essential then. Oh wait, maybe we did save them three times?

 

 

But to get back on topic.. I don't know. I love the history surrounding early americans (and native americans), and also anything that involves the civil war. But there were other things that happened. Such as the frontier expeditions. I would also like to add that US history does not just have to include the time period covering the united states. The origins of the country include many colonies started by many countries!

Then again, world history is also really interesting. The Roman empire, the Byzantine Empire, Alexander the Great and so forth. I like it all, really.



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highwaystar101 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Well our country may not be old, but I would like to say we have had more significant inventions than any other country.


Except Egypt, they invented Beer, that trumps eerything we have ever done

I know I said I'm out of this thread, but this just had to be replied too.

British inventions include

  • The computer
  • Penicilin
  • World wide web
  • Jet engine
  • Microphone
  • Steam engine
  • Electric transformer
  • Light bulb (Joseph Wilson Swan)
  • Flushing toilet
  • Calculus
  • Electromagnet
  • The police
  • Telephone
  • Radio
  • Insulin
  • Beta-blockers
  • English language (what are you speaking?)

That's not even covering 5% of them I reckon, and not even including the scientific advances we gave the world such as Laws of gravity and the theory of Evolution.

Also, that's just Britain, let's get Persia, Holland, Germany and Mesopotamia in on this act, they even kick our asses.

P.S. that's it from me for now.

I'm fine with all of them except the bolded. You CANNOT invent a language. Languages are formed from dialects of other languages becoming more distinct until they are so distinct that they are not able to be understood by any of the root(s) language(s). In the case of english it was formed by germanic dialects from angles and the saxons with the addition of latin roots from the french spoken by the Normans, and tons of smaller additions from other languages. The germanic language that English,German,Dutch,and all germanic languages root from came from the Indo European languages which include all languages that fall into these categories(Albanian, Anatolian,Armenian,Balto-Slavic,Celtic,Germanic,Hellenic,Indo-Iranian,Italic, and Tocharian.)  Then indo-european rooted even more to older languages, and you could go on until you find a root language that was spoken by the humans that lived in Africa. So no, the English didn't "Invent" the English language, and no they weren't the only ones to make contributions to it.

 

 

Edit: Oh and btw, Americans or any other English speakers of whom are of English decent and have Anglo Saxon ancestors have the same stance as English citizens of whom have Anglo-Saxon ancestors in stating that they "invented" the language, if it were true that you could "invent" a language.



Calculus?

The British didn't invent Calculus. Calculus has been around longer then... well Britain.



sc94597 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Well our country may not be old, but I would like to say we have had more significant inventions than any other country.


Except Egypt, they invented Beer, that trumps eerything we have ever done

I know I said I'm out of this thread, but this just had to be replied too.

British inventions include

  • The computer
  • Penicilin
  • World wide web
  • Jet engine
  • Microphone
  • Steam engine
  • Electric transformer
  • Light bulb (Joseph Wilson Swan)
  • Flushing toilet
  • Calculus
  • Electromagnet
  • The police
  • Telephone
  • Radio
  • Insulin
  • Beta-blockers
  • English language (what are you speaking?)

That's not even covering 5% of them I reckon, and not even including the scientific advances we gave the world such as Laws of gravity and the theory of Evolution.

Also, that's just Britain, let's get Persia, Holland, Germany and Mesopotamia in on this act, they even kick our asses.

P.S. that's it from me for now.

I'm fine with all of them except the bolded. You CANNOT invent a language. Languages are formed from dialects of other languages becoming more distinct until they are so distinct that they are not able to be understood by any of the root(s) language(s). In the case of english it was formed by germanic dialects from angles and the saxons with the addition of latin roots from the french spoken by the Normans, and tons of smaller additions from other languages. The germanic language that English,German,Dutch,and all germanic languages root from came from the Indo European languages which include all languages that fall into these categories(Albanian, Anatolian,Armenian,Balto-Slavic,Celtic,Germanic,Hellenic,Indo-Iranian,Italic, and Tocharian.)  Then indo-european rooted even more to older languages, and you could go on until you find a root language that was spoken by the humans that lived in Africa. So no, the English didn't "Invent" the English language, and no they weren't the only ones to make contributions to it.

 

 

Edit: Oh and btw, Americans or any other English speakers of whom are of English decent and have Anglo Saxon ancestors have the same stance as English citizens of whom have Anglo-Saxon ancestors in stating that they "invented" the language, if it were true that you could "invent" a language.

 

Yeah, although English began to develop in England, it's hardly something they invented.  English started off as Low German that ended up being mixed with French, and then Latin.  Plus, a language continues to develop over time, and you can't really say it's ever done and invented.

 

@Kasz: Although bits and pieces were developed well before England, modern Calculus can mainly be attributed to Sir Isaac Newton (English) and Leibniz (German).  Still, though, it's half English half German, and we wouldn't have a lot of useful things like dy/dx notation for derivatives without Leibniz.  I don't think you can really claim calculus for England.



tarheel91 said:
sc94597 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Well our country may not be old, but I would like to say we have had more significant inventions than any other country.


Except Egypt, they invented Beer, that trumps eerything we have ever done

I know I said I'm out of this thread, but this just had to be replied too.

British inventions include

  • The computer
  • Penicilin
  • World wide web
  • Jet engine
  • Microphone
  • Steam engine
  • Electric transformer
  • Light bulb (Joseph Wilson Swan)
  • Flushing toilet
  • Calculus
  • Electromagnet
  • The police
  • Telephone
  • Radio
  • Insulin
  • Beta-blockers
  • English language (what are you speaking?)

That's not even covering 5% of them I reckon, and not even including the scientific advances we gave the world such as Laws of gravity and the theory of Evolution.

Also, that's just Britain, let's get Persia, Holland, Germany and Mesopotamia in on this act, they even kick our asses.

P.S. that's it from me for now.

I'm fine with all of them except the bolded. You CANNOT invent a language. Languages are formed from dialects of other languages becoming more distinct until they are so distinct that they are not able to be understood by any of the root(s) language(s). In the case of english it was formed by germanic dialects from angles and the saxons with the addition of latin roots from the french spoken by the Normans, and tons of smaller additions from other languages. The germanic language that English,German,Dutch,and all germanic languages root from came from the Indo European languages which include all languages that fall into these categories(Albanian, Anatolian,Armenian,Balto-Slavic,Celtic,Germanic,Hellenic,Indo-Iranian,Italic, and Tocharian.)  Then indo-european rooted even more to older languages, and you could go on until you find a root language that was spoken by the humans that lived in Africa. So no, the English didn't "Invent" the English language, and no they weren't the only ones to make contributions to it.

 

 

Edit: Oh and btw, Americans or any other English speakers of whom are of English decent and have Anglo Saxon ancestors have the same stance as English citizens of whom have Anglo-Saxon ancestors in stating that they "invented" the language, if it were true that you could "invent" a language.

 

Yeah, although English began to develop in England, it's hardly something they invented.  English started off as Low German that ended up being mixed with French, and then Latin.  Plus, a language continues to develop over time, and you can't really say it's ever done and invented.

 

@Kasz: Although bits and pieces were developed well before England, modern Calculus can mainly be attributed to Sir Isaac Newton (English) and Leibniz (German).  Still, though, it's half English half German, and we wouldn't have a lot of useful things like dy/dx notation for derivatives without Leibniz.  I don't think you can really claim calculus for England.

That's like saying the guy who invented the wheel was the first guy who decided to use rubber on the wheel.

Or that Apple was the first people to invent the Ipod or something.

 



Kasz216 said:
tarheel91 said:
sc94597 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Well our country may not be old, but I would like to say we have had more significant inventions than any other country.


Except Egypt, they invented Beer, that trumps eerything we have ever done

I know I said I'm out of this thread, but this just had to be replied too.

British inventions include

  • The computer
  • Penicilin
  • World wide web
  • Jet engine
  • Microphone
  • Steam engine
  • Electric transformer
  • Light bulb (Joseph Wilson Swan)
  • Flushing toilet
  • Calculus
  • Electromagnet
  • The police
  • Telephone
  • Radio
  • Insulin
  • Beta-blockers
  • English language (what are you speaking?)

That's not even covering 5% of them I reckon, and not even including the scientific advances we gave the world such as Laws of gravity and the theory of Evolution.

Also, that's just Britain, let's get Persia, Holland, Germany and Mesopotamia in on this act, they even kick our asses.

P.S. that's it from me for now.

I'm fine with all of them except the bolded. You CANNOT invent a language. Languages are formed from dialects of other languages becoming more distinct until they are so distinct that they are not able to be understood by any of the root(s) language(s). In the case of english it was formed by germanic dialects from angles and the saxons with the addition of latin roots from the french spoken by the Normans, and tons of smaller additions from other languages. The germanic language that English,German,Dutch,and all germanic languages root from came from the Indo European languages which include all languages that fall into these categories(Albanian, Anatolian,Armenian,Balto-Slavic,Celtic,Germanic,Hellenic,Indo-Iranian,Italic, and Tocharian.)  Then indo-european rooted even more to older languages, and you could go on until you find a root language that was spoken by the humans that lived in Africa. So no, the English didn't "Invent" the English language, and no they weren't the only ones to make contributions to it.

 

 

Edit: Oh and btw, Americans or any other English speakers of whom are of English decent and have Anglo Saxon ancestors have the same stance as English citizens of whom have Anglo-Saxon ancestors in stating that they "invented" the language, if it were true that you could "invent" a language.

 

Yeah, although English began to develop in England, it's hardly something they invented.  English started off as Low German that ended up being mixed with French, and then Latin.  Plus, a language continues to develop over time, and you can't really say it's ever done and invented.

 

@Kasz: Although bits and pieces were developed well before England, modern Calculus can mainly be attributed to Sir Isaac Newton (English) and Leibniz (German).  Still, though, it's half English half German, and we wouldn't have a lot of useful things like dy/dx notation for derivatives without Leibniz.  I don't think you can really claim calculus for England.

That's like saying the guy who invented the wheel was the first guy who decided to use rubber on the wheel.

Or that Apple was the first people to invent the Ipod or something.

 

No, not really.  Only tiny bits and pieces of Calculus were developed before Newton.  Most of it was pretty narrow in scope and had limited applicaiton.  Newton and Leibniz created almost everything we use in Calculus today.  I don't think you'd suggest that the person who got the first dot to recognize imput to move around the screen was the first creator of video games.  That's only one tiny component of it all.

By the way, I'm simply regurgitating what my physics teacher told me; she happens to have her Masters in applied mathematics and physics.