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Kasz216 on 22 April 2009
msnolp said:
Kasz216 said:

I disagree.... I think piracy has created a huge chunk of PSPs sold.

Without piracy... these PSPs just wouldn't of sold.


It's like the Ipod.  Is piracy hurting Itunes sales....?  Or is it pushing more Ipods.

Studies seem to show it's the latter.

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They had a few studies on Piracys effect on the Ipod.  Pretty interesting stuff.

A Wall Street journal study showed that like... Ipod would sell 60-75% less if they took the time to implement easy anti-piracy measures.



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Kasz216 on 22 April 2009
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Kasz216 said:

I disagree.... I think piracy has created a huge chunk of PSPs sold.

Without piracy... these PSPs just wouldn't of sold.


It's like the Ipod.  Is piracy hurting Itunes sales....?  Or is it pushing more Ipods.

Studies seem to show it's the latter.

So sony should thank them? It may help them in the hardware side but in the software side? Sofware is important to you know. What's the use of PSP if there is no games coming out from it.

 

1) I'm not defending piracy it's wrong.

2) They would probably sell less software without the piracy.  It's not like most people who pirate exclusivly pirate.  Just a few abnormals who don't comform to social norms and who probably wouldn't of bought the thing if it didn't give free games anyway.

How many less people would buy PSPS though if they couldn't have an SNES emulator on there?  Or something else similar.

 



Kasz216 on 22 April 2009
NJ5 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
The amount of copies of a particular movie or game that are pirated are related to how many it will sell. If a game is really popular, more people will buy it and more people will pirate it. The only game that had a disproportionate amount of pirated copies was Spore, because everybody was pirating it to protest the DRM. I highly doubt PSP games are being pirated any more than DS games, and if anything, they're being pirated far less because you actually have to mod/hack firmware/whatever. Downloading DS games is as easy as downloading .mp3s. There are still a great many people who will never download DS games or .mp3s.

I don't think piracy really hurts Sony or Nintendo though as much as they say though. I think it gets them to sell more hardware, DOESN'T hurt game sales (I think if forced to choose between paying or not playing, they'd choose to not play), and actually raises awareness about their games. There are pirates with tons of games, and their friends come over to play stuff. Their friends go "Wow this is cool can I borrow it?" and then "Oh, it won't play on my system at home unless I mod it?" "Naw, I don't want to mod it, that sounds risky. I'll just buy it."

I'm not advocating piracy, but I think video games cost too much, and if they can get the prices to a point that more people are comfortable paying, then the increase in sales will more than make up for it. Some people will always be pirates, and some people will never be pirates. And there are some who will only pirate if something costs waaaaay too much or is riddled with DRM.

Yeah, for example Windows would have nowhere near the market share it has if it wasn't for piracy. I'm pretty sure that Microsoft wants people to pirate their software to some extent (if it's a choice between pirating it and using something else like a Mac or Linux).

 

They actually say as much.

One guy actually said "Don't pirate, If you do... pirate us" because they see pirates as potential costumers... and believe a lot of people who pirate their stuff later start liking it more, valueing it more... and start buying the product legitamitly.

 



NJ5 on 22 April 2009
Kasz216 said:
NJ5 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
The amount of copies of a particular movie or game that are pirated are related to how many it will sell. If a game is really popular, more people will buy it and more people will pirate it. The only game that had a disproportionate amount of pirated copies was Spore, because everybody was pirating it to protest the DRM. I highly doubt PSP games are being pirated any more than DS games, and if anything, they're being pirated far less because you actually have to mod/hack firmware/whatever. Downloading DS games is as easy as downloading .mp3s. There are still a great many people who will never download DS games or .mp3s.

I don't think piracy really hurts Sony or Nintendo though as much as they say though. I think it gets them to sell more hardware, DOESN'T hurt game sales (I think if forced to choose between paying or not playing, they'd choose to not play), and actually raises awareness about their games. There are pirates with tons of games, and their friends come over to play stuff. Their friends go "Wow this is cool can I borrow it?" and then "Oh, it won't play on my system at home unless I mod it?" "Naw, I don't want to mod it, that sounds risky. I'll just buy it."

I'm not advocating piracy, but I think video games cost too much, and if they can get the prices to a point that more people are comfortable paying, then the increase in sales will more than make up for it. Some people will always be pirates, and some people will never be pirates. And there are some who will only pirate if something costs waaaaay too much or is riddled with DRM.

Yeah, for example Windows would have nowhere near the market share it has if it wasn't for piracy. I'm pretty sure that Microsoft wants people to pirate their software to some extent (if it's a choice between pirating it and using something else like a Mac or Linux).

 

They actually say as much.

One guy actually said "Don't pirate, If you do... pirate us" because they see pirates as potential costumers... and believe a lot of people who pirate their stuff later start liking it more, valueing it more... and start buying the product legitamitly.

 

Yes, that plus it keeps everyone familiar with Windows, so businesses (which for the most part don't pirate, at least not medium-large ones) will keep buying what people are familiar with... Windows of course.

 



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averyblund on 22 April 2009

I find it odd that so many people think digital distribution will lower piracy. Look at the PC or iPhone, or any other device that allows one to download digitally. They are in the exact same place. DRM is inherently broken be it in a physical or digital package.



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