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Kasz216 said:
GamingChartzFTW said:
Kasz216 said:
GamingChartzFTW said:

 

There you go...

LOL...she basically said that she was raised on those values.

That's the definition of brain washing.

 

So it's your opinion that parents should not teach them values?

People get their beliefs from their enviroments.

It's called socilization.

Have you gotten any beleifs from your parents?  Did they brainwash you too?

No. I analyze my surroundings in order to find moderation and core universal values. Not primitive inhereted values.

Cogito ergo sum, bitch! :/

Lets just say... the whole of sociology disagrees with you.

 

A de facto solid science like Sociology in itself does not 'disagree'. It uses applied systematic methods of empirical investigation. We measure our own findings, thoughts and values to the already massive amount of data registered in the discipline by using methodology in order to dismiss any biases or personal interests. Sociology is one of many essential 'tools' that we can use in order to further our understanding of human nature. The various fields in Sociology, Anthropology, Psychology aims at continous research without a 'finite goal'.

 



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GamingChartzFTW said:
Kasz216 said:
GamingChartzFTW said:
Kasz216 said:
GamingChartzFTW said:

 

There you go...

LOL...she basically said that she was raised on those values.

That's the definition of brain washing.

 

So it's your opinion that parents should not teach them values?

People get their beliefs from their enviroments.

It's called socilization.

Have you gotten any beleifs from your parents?  Did they brainwash you too?

No. I analyze my surroundings in order to find moderation and core universal values. Not primitive inhereted values.

Cogito ergo sum, bitch! :/

Lets just say... the whole of sociology disagrees with you.

 

A de facto solid science like Sociology in itself does not 'disagree' with anything. It uses applied systematic methods of empirical investigation. We measure our own findings, thoughts and values to the already massive amount of data registered in the discipline by using methodology in order to dismiss any biases or personal interests. Sociology is one of many essential 'tools' that we can use in order to further our understanding of human nature. The various fields in Sociology, Anthropology, Psychology aims at continous research without a 'finite goal'.

 

Which is great.  But your still disagreeing with it.

On the basis of... I guess you wanting to feel special?  I don't know.

 



WATCH OUT for GamingChartz!

He is "condemning" people for their opinions.

Very Definition of Intolerance




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SamuelRSmith said:
Slimebeast said:
SamuelRSmith said:
You know, there's a reason why the majority of people are "PC slaves"

 

 And why is that?

 

Because it's the right thing to do? I don't know about anyone else, but if someone says that they find something offensive, then I won't do/say that thing because I don't want to offend them - I assume that most humans live by these rules, too.

 

I think the counter-argument is that people get offended about minor things that don't really matter and inconvenience everyone else because they're being so difficult about it.

@NoJustNo: She does not want to ban gay marriage.  She disapproves of it personally, but thinks others should have the right to choose.  Try to use a little reading comprehension, please.  It is possible to disapprove of something but not think everyone should not be allowed to do/use it at the same time.



nojustno said:
wfz said:
nojustno said:
wfz said:
Pics?

Anyways, that's pretty lame that she was booed off and called such names by people who are insecure and/or overly sensitive freaks.

It's her opinion and she's entitled to it, everyone else can **** off.

 

True, entitled 100%. She's still a bigot for having that opinion though and certainly didn't deserve to win.

So while she respects and celebrates the fact that people can choose to marry and be with whoever they want, she holds a personal opinion that is different. I don't know why you'd condemn her for that.

 

I understand that people can choose whether or not to drink Alcohol, and I respect that. Personally, I dislike alcohol and I don't think it's a good thing to drink and I stay away from it.

 

Same boat, no?

 

 

I condemn her simply because I think her opinion is backwards and weak. Am I not entitled to think that way?

 

except you are the bigot, not her.



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MrBubbles said:
nojustno said:
wfz said:
nojustno said:
wfz said:
Pics?

Anyways, that's pretty lame that she was booed off and called such names by people who are insecure and/or overly sensitive freaks.

It's her opinion and she's entitled to it, everyone else can **** off.

 

True, entitled 100%. She's still a bigot for having that opinion though and certainly didn't deserve to win.

So while she respects and celebrates the fact that people can choose to marry and be with whoever they want, she holds a personal opinion that is different. I don't know why you'd condemn her for that.

 

I understand that people can choose whether or not to drink Alcohol, and I respect that. Personally, I dislike alcohol and I don't think it's a good thing to drink and I stay away from it.

 

Same boat, no?

 

 

I condemn her simply because I think her opinion is backwards and weak. Am I not entitled to think that way?

 

except you are the bigot, not her.

You're right, but that's definitely

 



CommunistHater said:
Most of you have been brain washed to be for non-traditional marriage. You are brainwashed by all the media you consume that is fantasy made to look like real life.

Brainwashed to think that those that think different from you are dumb and bigoted from your small exclusive cliques that you belong to.

You're brain washed to think that there's such a thing as 'traditional marriage'. Traditional marriage was between one man and many women. Marriage has been evolving over time. I'm not the brain washed one here. There's no reason gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, except for stupid old texts written by men of primitive societies, and people's own irrelivant opinions about it being gross or wrong.

If someone thinks gay marriage is wrong and does not support it, they're a bigot by definition: 'a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.'

What they're a bigot against, gay marriage, is an injustice. I'm a bigot myself, against illogical people. There's no rational basis for why gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, except ignorant opinions based on cultural or religious values.

 



WessleWoggle said:
CommunistHater said:
Most of you have been brain washed to be for non-traditional marriage. You are brainwashed by all the media you consume that is fantasy made to look like real life.

Brainwashed to think that those that think different from you are dumb and bigoted from your small exclusive cliques that you belong to.

You're brain washed to think that there's such a thing as 'traditional marriage'. Traditional marriage was between one man and many women. Marriage has been evolving over time. I'm not the brain washed one here. There's no reason gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, except for stupid old texts written by men of primitive societies, and people's own irrelivant opinions about it being gross or wrong.

If someone thinks gay marriage is wrong and does not support it, they're a bigot by definition: 'a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.'

What they're a bigot against, gay marriage, is an injustice. I'm a bigot myself, against illogical people. There's no rational basis for why gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, except ignorant opinions based on cultural or religious values.

 


Again, she is not opposed to gay marriage being allowed.  She disapproves of it, but celebrates the fact that people can choose whether or not they want to.  That means, "I don't approve of it, but I think everyone should be able to decide for themselves.  If they want to, they should feel free."



MrBubbles said:
nojustno said:
wfz said:
nojustno said:
wfz said:
Pics?

Anyways, that's pretty lame that she was booed off and called such names by people who are insecure and/or overly sensitive freaks.

It's her opinion and she's entitled to it, everyone else can **** off.

 

True, entitled 100%. She's still a bigot for having that opinion though and certainly didn't deserve to win.

So while she respects and celebrates the fact that people can choose to marry and be with whoever they want, she holds a personal opinion that is different. I don't know why you'd condemn her for that.

 

I understand that people can choose whether or not to drink Alcohol, and I respect that. Personally, I dislike alcohol and I don't think it's a good thing to drink and I stay away from it.

 

Same boat, no?

 

 

I condemn her simply because I think her opinion is backwards and weak. Am I not entitled to think that way?

 

except you are the bigot, not her.

She is a bigot, I'm a bigot, hell even your mother's one.

I'm definitely the lesser of evils though :3




WessleWoggle said:
CommunistHater said:
Most of you have been brain washed to be for non-traditional marriage. You are brainwashed by all the media you consume that is fantasy made to look like real life.

Brainwashed to think that those that think different from you are dumb and bigoted from your small exclusive cliques that you belong to.

You're brain washed to think that there's such a thing as 'traditional marriage'. Traditional marriage was between one man and many women. Marriage has been evolving over time. I'm not the brain washed one here. There's no reason gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, except for stupid old texts written by men of primitive societies, and people's own irrelivant opinions about it being gross or wrong.

If someone thinks gay marriage is wrong and does not support it, they're a bigot by definition: 'a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.'

What they're a bigot against, gay marriage, is an injustice. I'm a bigot myself, against illogical people. There's no rational basis for why gays shouldn't be allowed to get married, except ignorant opinions based on cultural or religious values.

 

For once, I actually agree with you. While I am straight, and disagree with the whole thing, I won't pretend like I can decide whether or not gays can marry. If they want to, that's fine with me. There's really no reason, outside of my religion, as to why they can't and my religion isn't everyone's religion. All I ask is that they don't try and force to be a part of my religion (which they have tried to do locally).