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thetonestarr said:
averyblund said:
City17 said:
Skype probably not coming to DSi after all!

There was some speculation yesterday about Skype on DSi after a Skype rep told TechRadar: "Whilst we can't comment on any future plans to bring Skype to Nintendo's DSi, it would technically be possible."

The words 'technically possible' are, in the scrimmage of the blogosphere, a kind of shorthand for 'entirely inevitable', and the so the sun set yesterday on a UK population moderately confident that it would one day be making calls via DSi.

It woke up this morning to less optimistic news. A Nintendo spokeperson has told CVG, "[w]e have no plans to release a Skype application for Nintendo DS or DSi."

However, just as 'technically possible' doesn't constitutes confirmation, 'no plans' doesn't constitute disconfirmation. VOIP on DSi could still happen. Skype just may not be the facilitator.

Or it may.

http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/DSi/Nintendo+DSi/news.asp?c=12827

 

Ninty would be so stupid not to encourage Skype. I think one general theme of the last few years is handheld convergence. MP3 players are now cell phones, with internet, and camera, and the ability to play (shitty) games. Sony saw this coming with the PSP and now Ninty seems to get it too with the DSi. People want to carry around the least amount of stuff they can. Both Sony and Nintendo should have released a GSM based handheld as a option years ago. I would own one if they did, but instead I simply can't find the worth in carrying around yet another device.

 

Ah, yes. Makes perfect sense. Handheld convergence being key is exactly why the N-Gage controls such a large percent of the marketshare today, and why the PSP is currently beating the DS.

 

 

...wait, that's not how it worked? Ah.

 

While I agree that making the DS capable of Skype would be wonderful, I can guarantee not including it will never significantly affect DS marketshare.

Besides, Nintendo doesn't HAVE to have plans to do it. It's eBay's decision to develop Skype for the DS - not Nintendo's.

 

 I never thought of it that way before.



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thetonestarr said:
averyblund said:
City17 said:
Skype probably not coming to DSi after all!

There was some speculation yesterday about Skype on DSi after a Skype rep told TechRadar: "Whilst we can't comment on any future plans to bring Skype to Nintendo's DSi, it would technically be possible."

The words 'technically possible' are, in the scrimmage of the blogosphere, a kind of shorthand for 'entirely inevitable', and the so the sun set yesterday on a UK population moderately confident that it would one day be making calls via DSi.

It woke up this morning to less optimistic news. A Nintendo spokeperson has told CVG, "[w]e have no plans to release a Skype application for Nintendo DS or DSi."

However, just as 'technically possible' doesn't constitutes confirmation, 'no plans' doesn't constitute disconfirmation. VOIP on DSi could still happen. Skype just may not be the facilitator.

Or it may.

http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/DSi/Nintendo+DSi/news.asp?c=12827

 

Ninty would be so stupid not to encourage Skype. I think one general theme of the last few years is handheld convergence. MP3 players are now cell phones, with internet, and camera, and the ability to play (shitty) games. Sony saw this coming with the PSP and now Ninty seems to get it too with the DSi. People want to carry around the least amount of stuff they can. Both Sony and Nintendo should have released a GSM based handheld as a option years ago. I would own one if they did, but instead I simply can't find the worth in carrying around yet another device.

 

Ah, yes. Makes perfect sense. Handheld convergence being key is exactly why the N-Gage controls such a large percent of the marketshare today, and why the PSP is currently beating the DS.

 

 

...wait, that's not how it worked? Ah.

 

While I agree that making the DS capable of Skype would be wonderful, I can guarantee not including it will never significantly affect DS marketshare.

Besides, Nintendo doesn't HAVE to have plans to do it. It's eBay's decision to develop Skype for the DS - not Nintendo's.

Up until very recently the convergence has been only a dream, but not really practical in real world. It is coming closer, though: most cell phones have decent cameras now, and that's an example of the most succesfull convergence IMO. The real problem in convergence is not so much technical as it is behavioural: people have certain behaviour patterns and expect certain devices to work in certain ways, and providing a user interface for all that has been extremely challenging. But, with the proper use of touch screens it is now a major step closer, and I'm not talking only about the iPhone. The DS/DSi also have great UI possibilities.

There have also been recent major breakthroughs in battery technology, and when those become available on the consumer market, the last big technical hurdle will be history. It may take years for them to reach mass markets, however...



thetonestarr said:

Ah, yes. Makes perfect sense. Handheld convergence being key is exactly why the N-Gage controls such a large percent of the marketshare today, and why the PSP is currently beating the DS.

...wait, that's not how it worked? Ah.

 

 

 

This is a great example of cherry picking. So because the horribly designed POS N-Gage didn't sell people hate convergence devices? Look at iPod, or phones and compare them to 5 or 10 years ago. Notice anything? Yeah they have cameras, games, video, web browsing. Look at consoles, they have similarly evolved. The point is not that the DSi is doomed without Skype. That is insane. What I was suggesting is that Nintendo should begin to build a platform for the future. Apple and Sony have started doing that, and so has Ninty. In 15 years I highly doubt anybody will be still carrying around a 1 purpose gaming device.



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The N-GAGE has existed in multiple iterations and failed every time. And that's not the only device I mentioned. Thanks for cherrypicking your argument.

I do agree that convergence is the right way to go, but Nintendo has shown - through their success - that it's got to be done slowly. Converging too quickly is a recipe for failure, because it typically means that things become complicated too quickly, consumers become confused, and devices turn out more expensive than people like. Those are the reasons the N-GAGE failed, why the PSP has lost its momentum so quickly, and why the PS3 failed to take off. They all tried different methods of convergence in ways that didn't work for the general public.

The point is that convergence has to be done right, or it will prove to be a tremendous failure. Nintendo is aware of that, so they're being cautious. Perhaps they're being too cautious, but you can't blame them. Not being cautious enough has proven to cause failure after failure.



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