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FKNetwork on 30 April 2009
mrstickball said:
I'd really like to see some sort of proof that a laptop purchased today can play top-end games for the next 7-8 years, shio, because I doubt a 3 year old laptop can play Crysis that cost under $3,000 in '06.

Exactly what I was thinking!

A laptop will be able to play top games in 7-8 years?, LMAO, that is now one of the funniest things I have heard for a while on here!, a new gaming laptop would be lucky to be able to play top games (on high settings etc) for the next 18 months let along 7 years lol.

 



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shio on 30 April 2009
mrstickball said:
I'd really like to see some sort of proof that a laptop purchased today can play top-end games for the next 7-8 years, shio, because I doubt a 3 year old laptop can play Crysis that cost under $3,000 in '06.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220489

Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 2.4 Ghz
Geforce 9650M GT 1GB
Ram 4GB

 

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114650

Intel Core 2 Duo T6400 2.0 Ghz
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 1GB DDR3 + up to 1277MB shared memory
Ram 4GB (can expand to 8GB)

 

The second one's only problem is the weaker CPU, but with a safe overclock it should last for ages.



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GamingChartzFTW on 30 April 2009
mrstickball said:
GamingChartzFTW said:
mrstickball said:
GamingChartzFTW said:
I agree with vlad321

The average PC gamer is much more mature and serious in his gaming interest than the average "Couch Joe".

That has to be the stupidest quote I've ever read in the history of PC gaming.

Unless by 'mature' you mean entirely in age (in which, the median PC gaming user would probably be older), and by 'serious' you mean spends more time playing PC Solitare or Tower Defense games, that may be the case.

But sufficive to say, a prototypical PC gamer is not much different from a console gamer. You have fanatics on both sides of the spectrum, but there's very little difference between them. One just pays a bit more to play (PC) than the other (console).

I encourage you to look up statistics on Newgrounds, Kongregate, and ArmorGames before making such insane claims.

 

 

I ninja edited my post. I'll repost below so that you get more of the context:

GamingChartzFTW said:

I agree with vlad321

The average PC gamer is much more mature and serious in his gaming interest than the average "Couch Joe". No offense.

I'm not saying that core gaming is in any way 'better' or more important than casual console gaming. I'm just stating that PC gamers are older, more experienced and serious. Being on Xbox Live just isn't the same.

If that is Elitism, then I guess I'm Elitist.

/

 

Wrong still.

You do not understand that the PC market is much more diverse than your giving it credit for. For every XBL kiddo that you deride, there's an even younger PC user playing Thomas The Train's FunTime Adventure on mommy's laptop.

The issue is that when you target PC gamers you are targeting everyone that plays PC games. That goes from Left 4 Dead and Crysis down to Solitare and Yahoo Chess.

And to quantify the argument:

As of this very second, there are under 250,000 games being played on Steam, as per their stats page. This represents the pinnacle of hardcore PC gamers, and comes from a user base of >15,000,000 users.

At this very second, 255,000 PC gamers are on Pogo.com playing games like Jigsaw Treasure Hunter (which has as many people playing it as Counter-Strike, and twice as many as Left 4 Dead). Pogo.com is not the largest PC gaming site, as AOL Games has over 290,000 concurrent gamers, and Yahoo Games is most likely larger.

So I must ask you....Why is the PC gamer older and more mature? See below..

 

When I underlined "PC gamer" I am referring to Gamers intrinsèque.

Not your average granny playing her Solitaire, uncle Toby playing his Minesweeper or Tim playing Pinball. Nor Jared playing Guitar Hero.

(see topic and context)

/

 

 



mrstickball on 30 April 2009

Oh, so we're only cherrypicking specific demographics to show maturity? Bravo. Way to go.



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GamingChartzFTW on 30 April 2009
GamingChartzFTW said:

When I underlined "PC gamer" I am referring to Gamers intrinsèque.

Not your average granny playing her Solitaire, uncle Toby playing his Minesweeper or Tim playing Pinball. Nor Jared playing Guitar Hero.

(see topic and context)

/

 

mrstickball said:
Oh, so we're only cherrypicking specific demographics to show maturity? Bravo. Way to go.

 

We are looking at the divide between core Console Gamers and core PC Gamers. And whether or not core PC gaming will reclaim the throne like PC gaming did in the late 1990s. Me, vlad321 and other users are discussing what constitutes a good gaming experience on each respective platform. And what PC online gaming can offer compared to what Xbox/PS3/Wii provides. Among other related issues concerning core Gamers.

If you want to discuss the growth of casual gaming, free online games, Pogo.com Jigsaw Treasure Hunter, "which has as many people playing it as Counter-Strike, and twice as many as Left 4 Dead" (your own words from your own post), then this is obviously not the thread for you. Feel free to start your own thread.

You are a Moderator here on VGChartz. Please do not derail the topic at hand. You are supposed to be a good example for us all.

 



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vic_viper on 30 April 2009

@ Op, by "throne" you mean toilet right?



GamingChartzFTW on 30 April 2009
vic_viper said:
@ Op, by "throne" you mean toilet right?

 

 lol  :P

 



mrstickball on 30 April 2009
GamingChartzFTW said:
GamingChartzFTW said:

When I underlined "PC gamer" I am referring to Gamers intrinsèque.

Not your average granny playing her Solitaire, uncle Toby playing his Minesweeper or Tim playing Pinball. Nor Jared playing Guitar Hero.

(see topic and context)

/

 

mrstickball said:
Oh, so we're only cherrypicking specific demographics to show maturity? Bravo. Way to go.

We are looking at the divide between core Console Gamers and core PC Gamers. And whether or not core PC gaming will reclaim the throne like PC gaming did in the late 1990s. Me, vlad321 and other users are discussing what constitutes a good gaming experience on each respective platform. And what PC online gaming can offer compared to what Xbox/PS3/Wii provides. Among other related issues concerning core Gamers.

If you want to discuss the growth of casual gaming, free online games, Pogo.com Jigsaw Treasure Hunter, "which has as many people playing it as Counter-Strike, and twice as many as Left 4 Dead" (your own words from your own post), then this is obviously not the thread for you. Feel free to start your own thread.

You are a Moderator here on VGChartz. Please do not derail the topic at hand. You are supposed to be a good example for us all.

Where were you attempting to quantify core gamers from each group, rather than gamers? Where is your data concerning your views on core gamers between both divisions?

The OP was arguing that PC gaming will reclaim the throne. You made no definition that 'Oh, hardcore PC gamers, of which I can't quantify' will overtake cosnole gamers that you cannot quantify either.

I am not understanding how I can derail the thread when you never defined what the discussion was about, other than PC gaming in general.

 



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FKNetwork on 04 May 2009

I'll tell you one good game I like on PC, PEGGLE!!!!, love it and have absolutely no idea why! it recently came onto xbox live so bought it for that too (multiplayer is really good),

Very addictive and it's PC games like this which I think are cool, makes a change from all the latest top graphic ones,