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CMoney on 18 April 2009
MikeB said:

@ CMoney

MIKEB - Pease wake up and face reality. The ps2 only had a 30 day warranty from sony.


That's not legal here in Europe, if that's legal for your country IMO take it up with the government in an effort to change the laws (companies will always try to do what costs them as less as possible money).

PS3 warranty through dealers is 3 years here in the EU.

Microsoft gives you a 3 YEAR WARRANTY....

Sadly you are wrong, due to class action lawsuits, Microsoft only provides 3 years warranty on RRoD and since only recently E74 failures.

MIKEB - You are a complete fool anda total sony tool.

Sony has a1 year warranty in the USA for the ps3.

Stop lying to people.  Seriously you need to stop with the misinformation.

Sony propaganda has fried your brain and rendered it unable to think independently.

Joeseph Goebbels would be proud

 



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gergroy on 18 April 2009
CMoney said:
MikeB said:

@ CMoney

MIKEB - Pease wake up and face reality. The ps2 only had a 30 day warranty from sony.


That's not legal here in Europe, if that's legal for your country IMO take it up with the government in an effort to change the laws (companies will always try to do what costs them as less as possible money).

PS3 warranty through dealers is 3 years here in the EU.

Microsoft gives you a 3 YEAR WARRANTY....

Sadly you are wrong, due to class action lawsuits, Microsoft only provides 3 years warranty on RRoD and since only recently E74 failures.

MIKEB - You are a complete fool anda total sony tool.

Sony has a1 year warranty in the USA for the ps3.

Stop lying to people.  Seriously you need to stop with the misinformation.

Sony propaganda has fried your brain and rendered it unable to think independently.

Joeseph Goebbels would be proud

 

to be fair CMoney, he was only talking about Europe, not America.  So he wasn't really lying.  That doesn't mean that he isn't a sony tool, or that he can think outside of "Sony is the only possible good gaming system out there" mentality.  But he wasn't lying in the post you quoted.

 



EaglesEye379 on 18 April 2009

PS3 warranty is 1 year in UK and Australia.

I double checked this on an online manual:
http://uk.playstation.com/help-support/manuals/ps3/?page=1

http://www.playstation.com/manual/pdf/CECHJ02_03-2.30_1.pdf

See the Safety and Support v2.3 for PS3 on page 13.



EaglesEye379 on 18 April 2009

Actually its 1 year in all of EU.

I looked at the Dutch website
http://nl.playstation.com/help-support/manuals/

http://www.playstation.com/manual/pdf/CECHJ04-2.30_1.pdf

And the same guide on page 14.

It says it applies to Austria, Belgium, France, Italy etc.



vlad321 on 18 April 2009

Sony BGM rootkit anyone? When was the last time MS put a trojan on my computer?



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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vlad321 on 18 April 2009
kowenicki said:
@vlad

add in hundreds of thousands of dangerous laptop batteries....

and 400,000 overheating vaios...

and cd's with xcp protection...

 

That's the rootkit.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Magic Monkey on 18 April 2009

maybe they love microsoft



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Loud_Hot_White_Box on 18 April 2009
vlad321 said:
kowenicki said:
@vlad

add in hundreds of thousands of dangerous laptop batteries....

and 400,000 overheating vaios...

and cd's with xcp protection...

 

That's the rootkit.

 

I actually don't remember many people defending Sony over these failures.  Not that it's particularly necessary: all businesses will have them.  Provide us with links to the effect that Sony knew the batteries were defective when the models were greenlit.  They aren't there.  Even if they were, failure rate of the batteries was incomparably lower than the 360's optical drives and RRoDing hardware.  And note, when Sony found out the batteries had problems they 1) issued a recall (no recall of 360), 2) CHANGED THE BATTERY CONSTRUCTION SO THEY WOULD NO LONGER FAIL, and 3) fired the engineer overseeing the battery production. 

This all seems quite different than what MS did here.

Granted, the reason people haven't had to defend Sony as much on this site is because Sony's video game console, the PS3, is much better engineered than the 360.  And since this is a video game site...  you get the idea.



NJ5 on 18 April 2009
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
vlad321 said:
kowenicki said:
@vlad

add in hundreds of thousands of dangerous laptop batteries....

and 400,000 overheating vaios...

and cd's with xcp protection...

 

That's the rootkit.

 

I actually don't remember many people defending Sony over these failures.  Not that it's particularly necessary: all businesses will have them.  Provide us with links to the effect that Sony knew the batteries were defective when the models were greenlit.  They aren't there.  And note, when Sony found out the batteries had problems they 1) issued a recall (no recall of 360), 2) CHANGED THE BATTERY CONSTRUCTION SO THEY WOULD NO LONGER FAIL, and 3) fired the engineer overseeing the battery production. 

This all seems quite different than what MS did here.

Granted, the reason people haven't had to defend Sony as much on this site is because Sony's video game console, the PS3, is much better engineered than the 360.  And since this is a video game site...  you get the idea.

I just checked and actually Sony's battery case was much more complicated than that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony#Batteries

 



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Loud_Hot_White_Box on 18 April 2009
NJ5 said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
vlad321 said:
kowenicki said:
@vlad

add in hundreds of thousands of dangerous laptop batteries....

and 400,000 overheating vaios...

and cd's with xcp protection...

 

That's the rootkit.

 

I actually don't remember many people defending Sony over these failures.  Not that it's particularly necessary: all businesses will have them.  Provide us with links to the effect that Sony knew the batteries were defective when the models were greenlit.  They aren't there.  And note, when Sony found out the batteries had problems they 1) issued a recall (no recall of 360), 2) CHANGED THE BATTERY CONSTRUCTION SO THEY WOULD NO LONGER FAIL, and 3) fired the engineer overseeing the battery production. 

This all seems quite different than what MS did here.

Granted, the reason people haven't had to defend Sony as much on this site is because Sony's video game console, the PS3, is much better engineered than the 360.  And since this is a video game site...  you get the idea.

I just checked and actually Sony's battery case was much more complicated than that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony#Batteries

 

 

Ok, noted, it does say that Sony was aware of some problems...I was thinking to myself, wait, companies probably know shit like that all the time and proceed.  Note that I added a comment since your post, to the effect that the severity of the problem is probably orders of magnitude higher in the case of the 360's problems: it affected many many more consumers.