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I know greenmedic. I just have that luck. My 360 died on me three different times. my ps3 had to get replaced because of the fans and my LCD had white spots. Electronics are just not friendly with me it seems. I love the OS dont get me wrong.



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IMO, apple's just not worth the extra money.



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HappySqurriel said:

First off, matching specs seems foolish being that most people's needs would be met by a $300 Intel-Atom based untra-portable PC, the build quality of Apple products is not dramatically better than any other major manufacturer (after all, they are using the same hardware and assembling it in the same Chineese factories), and I don't think I have known anyone to have a hardware compatibility problem in at least 5 years (and for the 10 years prior to that it was pretty rare) ... Beyond that, the average user will adapt to Linux, Windows or Mac OS within a couple of hours because their needs are not that complicated and most of the functionality they use is very similar across all operating systems.

With that said, an Apple PC is very similar to Sony TVs ... Although they are very expenisve compared to what most people buy this isn't (necessarily) because their prices are outrageous as much as it is because they don't have products at a lower price range because the margins aren't any good.

 

Soleron was simply countering apple's "high quality, power world class hardware" argument with proof that at the same quality or maybe slightly better, a windows pc is cheaper than a mac.

 



irstupid said:
i love their security claims. ha the main reason mac's are so damn virus free and shit is because people just don't give a shit to throw virus' on them. All business use pc's and thats why hackers and shit only mess with them. also due to the shit ton more users on windows and other reasons.

I love their security claim when all it amounts to is that they are just lucky enough to be being ignored by hackers

Then I must be freakishly lucky.

I've been using Macs since the 512k (over 20 years ago) and I haven't had a single day of downtime due to virus, trojan horse, worm, malware, etc.

Regardless of what the reasons are, Macs don't fall victim to all the common problems experienced by Windows users.

Yes, I do my own IT for Macs and Windows PC. I run virus, network protection, etc. on all PCs, and none on the Macs beyond the basic default security.

Still waiting for all those big holes in OSX security I never seem to run into. It would be a blast of fresh air to actually do some IT on any Mac for a change really.

 



dcIKeeL said:
HappySqurriel said:

First off, matching specs seems foolish being that most people's needs would be met by a $300 Intel-Atom based untra-portable PC, ...

 

Soleron was simply countering apple's "high quality, power world class hardware" argument with proof that at the same quality or maybe slightly better, a windows pc is cheaper than a mac.

 

Yes. Spec-matching is indeed pointless. But it's extremely lol that Apple even thinks they can market along those lines.

And replace "Intel Atom" with "AMD Athlon Neo" or "Via Nano". Both of those alternatives offer matching or better CPU power but much better integrated graphics (780G and 9400M respectively) than Intel's poor GMA-based ones. For the same price and same total system power consumption.

 



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so what? apple cant taste a little of its own medicine??

god i hate apples attitude towards Microsoft and other companies.



hello how are you.

again all the stupid comparisons...

i had many computers from zx spectrum to macbook pro

the best ones i ever used was my Amiga and macs

is logic to say pcs are better in a gaming site

dare to say the same in a music site or a video editing site

they will just laugh at you

and in the end

if macs can natively run windows there is NO reason to compare a pc with a mac

because a mac can be a pc

the pc can't!

and dont tell me about the hackintosh bla bla

i have an msi wind with osx one of the best netbooks to have osx installed

and is a SHIT

you can't compare the real thing sorry the feeling is SO different

also i dont care if it has no viruses because they dont have a big marketshare

the fact is that there are NO virus threats

i dont care about why

accept the facts

i feel so sorry about myslef because i used pcs for some years

seriously

computers with NO personality whatsover

u pay more because its better

there is always a reason

and smth else

computers are NOT for games

there is NOTHING a pc can do that a mac can't

because a mac is a pc too

and microsoft is so stupid to make ads against apple

when they could advertise windows for macs or smth like that because they can run natively now

i dont get it

they should make ads showing running windows in parallel with mac and things like that

 

why be against a platform that RUNS windows?

it doesnt make sense

 

they are so scared

 

iphone is taking over the world

 

they have the stupid zune and they dont know how to attack apple

 

and they found this stupid way

 

to say is expensive or bla bla

 

yeah because it's better

 

but im also against apple's ads 

when they say stupid things about microsoft and pcs

this is another mistake and they should stop making it as well

 

show your products and stop comparing 

we don't want that

 

even apple fans hate it



gameover said:

again all the stupid comparisons...

i had many computers from zx spectrum to macbook pro

the best ones i ever used was my Amiga and macs

is logic to say pcs are better in a gaming site

dare to say the same in a music site or a video editing site

they will just laugh at you

and in the end

if macs can natively run windows there is NO reason to compare a pc with a mac

because a mac can be a pc

the pc can't!

and dont tell me about the hackintosh bla bla

i have an msi wind with osx one of the best netbooks to have osx installed

and is a SHIT

you can't compare the real thing sorry the feeling is SO different

also i dont care if it has no viruses because they dont have a big marketshare

the fact is that there are NO virus threats

i dont care about why

accept the facts

i feel so sorry about myslef because i used pcs for some years

seriously

computers with NO personality whatsover

u pay more because its better

there is always a reason

and smth else

computers are NOT for games

there is NOTHING a pc can do that a mac can't

because a mac is a pc too

and microsoft is so stupid to make ads against apple

when they could advertise windows for macs or smth like that because they can run natively now

i dont get it

they should make ads showing running windows in parallel with mac and things like that

 

why be against a platform that RUNS windows?

it doesnt make sense

 

they are so scared

 

iphone is taking over the world

 

they have the stupid zune and they dont know how to attack apple

 

and they found this stupid way

 

to say is expensive or bla bla

 

yeah because it's better

 

but im also against apple's ads 

when they say stupid things about microsoft and pcs

this is another mistake and they should stop making it as well

 

show your products and stop comparing 

we don't want that

 

even apple fans hate it

Gentlemen.

 



Millennium said:
I'm a recovering Mac zealot, to be honest; I switched to Linux some years ago. But while I may be disillusioned with Apple, the guy's got a good point here about the one remaining advantage Macs really have: they Just Work in ways that the other platforms simply don't.

 

It always confuses me when people say Macs just work out of the box and PC's don't.  Every laptop I've gotten has just worked out of the box.  Sure, they are other programs I have to install but I would have to do that on a Mac too...

Also, the respones in the OP was just all around lame.  Way to completely side step the issues, gotta love PR spin.



@gameover
lern2paragraph please. i rather see a wall of text (so that i know to skip over it) than be assaulted by stupid bullet points (in continuous-sentence form, if that makes sense) hoping to find a nugget of wisdom. simply put - most people don't enjoy macs because of the giant premium attached to them (a computer of similar specs to my laptop when i bought it would've easily been over 600 dollars more, but again, we all know macs are overpriced anywhere outside their near immediate launch date of a newer model), don't enjoy the culture that seems to follow mac users (you are a shining example of that, as well as the "i'm a mac" ads), or just simply dont enjoy the OS (i.e, me).

Anyways, a legitimate question to mac users - is there really that much of a problem with installing software on a PC when compared to a mac? The only times i ever have hiccups in the process is with a scratched CD (which is to be expected) or when the software is in a different language, and even then i know where the "next" buttons are so I can usually work my way through it.

I ask because i keep seeing how macs are so "Easy to use" and yet i personally dont see it (my personal expiriences with macs are actually frustrating when trying to get them to do what i want them to do, but then again, im native to windows). Someone mind explaining why this claim exists (as in, why is a mac easier to use than a windows / linux)? The only thing that comes to mind is that you'd get far less compatibility issues concerning hardware (since, like someone else noted - on windows you might get 80 word processors while a mac would have 8 or so, so less chances for problems to occur).

someone mind answering this for me? (i do not mean any offense with the last two paragraphs, its a legitimate question that confounds me).

edit: looks like twesterns' confused about the same thing that i am...nice to know im not alone?



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