Kasz216 said:
Oh. In that case in his parnoid mind i'm sure it was because he thought it was a good place for a "Futile last stand before the deficit spending doomed us all... ending in us being nuked by Iran." |
Hahaha, I bet. Well you understand him better than I ever could. I hope you can't understand him TOO MUCH though. His way of thinking might be contagious.
Goodness man, you're trying to label it as though I'm claiming THE ONLY THING that's perpetuating racism is AA. Tell me where I said that? Please point it out. Why are you trying to dig a trench around my statement? Because you're filling it with water and drowning in it.
I said simply that AA perpetuates racism via resentment. Nothing more. It's not exclusive, it's not the sole vessel of perpetuation, it's not a monopoly on racist momentum nor did I ever once suggest it as such.
The rEVOLution is not being televised
theprof00 said:
Being poor has nothing to do with it. Having a crappy life has nothing to do with it. No it doesn't give me resentment because 90% of the time (and trust me that is a pretty accurate statistic) I will get a job easier than the black man will.
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Hooray. You'll get a job at Wal-mart easier while the black person will get to go to college and get a real job. I'm sure that will be a big comfort.
Kasz216 said:
But the tax hike was passed during the recession. In 1982... when the recession was at it's worst. Furthmore Congress cut government spending. It's been called the biggest tax hike in US history. |
Yeah, but compared to the massiveness of his earlier tax cuts they were not substantial, but you are correct. I bet most conservatives would say you were lying if you told them that Reagan raised taxes four separate times during his tenure in office. But it actually shows to me that he wasn't a complete idiot that some liberals make him out to be (well, if you just ignore all that Moral Majority BS). A true fiscal conservative is not afraid to raise taxes. I don't understand why so few people understand that these days:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0301.green.html
Reagan, who never came to terms with this episode of ideological apostasy, persuaded himself that the three-year, $100 billion tax hike--the largest since World War II--was actually "tax reform" that closed loopholes in his earlier cut and therefore didn't count as raising taxes.)
Faced with looming deficits, Reagan raised taxes again in 1983 with a gasoline tax and once more in 1984, this time by $50 billion over three years, mainly through closing tax loopholes for business. Despite the fact that such increases were anathema to conservatives--and probably cost Reagan's successor, George H.W. Bush, reelection--Reagan raised taxes a grand total of four times just between 1982-84.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Let me break it down for you.
AA tells a company that if you have two candidates for employment who both meet the required credentials, you have to pick the minority candidate IF and ONLY IF your minority quota has not been fulfilled.
The whole reason it was enforced was because Equal Opportunity did not then exist in the workforce and still doesn't (It may not be as bad as it was, but the hiring biases are still there).
It's a common misconception that less qualified minorities are taking jobs from the "whites who deserve them", but if that scenario actually did happen, those white people would be able to file for a discrimination suit (but they don't, because they know the qualifications were met).
I think Glenn Beck has schizophrenia or a cocaine addiction.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| theprof00 said: Let me break it down for you. AA tells a company that if you have two candidates for employment who both meet the required credentials, you have to pick the minority candidate IF and ONLY IF your minority quota has not been fulfilled. The whole reason it was enforced was because Equal Opportunity did not then exist in the workforce and still doesn't (It may not be as bad as it was, but the hiring biases are still there). It's a common misconception that less qualified minorities are taking jobs from the "whites who deserve them", but if that scenario actually did happen, those white people would be able to file for a discrimination suit (but they don't, because they know the qualifications were met). |
Can't two people meet the same qualfications for something... and one person be more qualified?
I think you seem to be missing that.
Kasz216 said:
Hooray. You'll get a job at Wal-mart easier while the black person will get to go to college and get a real job. I'm sure that will be a big comfort. |
No kasz, that 90% applies to school application as well as everything else.
(source is not exactly a peer-reviewed journal, but I can assure you this is the reality)
| theprof00 said: Let me break it down for you. AA tells a company that if you have two candidates for employment who both meet the required credentials, you have to pick the minority candidate IF and ONLY IF your minority quota has not been fulfilled. The whole reason it was enforced was because Equal Opportunity did not then exist in the workforce and still doesn't (It may not be as bad as it was, but the hiring biases are still there). It's a common misconception that less qualified minorities are taking jobs from the "whites who deserve them", but if that scenario actually did happen, those white people would be able to file for a discrimination suit (but they don't, because they know the qualifications were met). |
I'm well aware of what AA is. My entire poitn is grounded on the basis of what you just said and if you don't think this kind of special treatment generates resentment, you really need to research it.
The rEVOLution is not being televised
This is my stance on affirmative action:
Oh, and Rush Limbaugh thinks that Obama got where he is because of affirmative action. Just ignore the douchy guy before and after the Rush Limbaugh clip:
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
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