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Seece on 16 April 2009
Tim_Duncan said:
I'm not sure there will ever be a next Xbox console, especially if the only country they continue to sell well is the US. When you're half the price of your competitor, you need to sell better than roughly the same as your competitor to succeed...

Ms still didn't recoup the Xbox 1 losses, the 360 is dead in Japan (1 million vs 4 million PS3), and most recent multiplatform games sell more on PS3 worldwide (RE5, SF4...).

I highly doubt it's enough to convince MS shareholders to go on with the gaming market. That was never MS core market anyway, and they're bleeding too much money in every business right now (Zune failure vs Ipod, Yahoo bid failure, IE losing market share to Firefox Safari and Chrome, Vista failure, Office losing market share vs Open Office).

Talk about Spin.

 

The Xbox 360 is selling great in Europe at the minute, it can easily suprass 20 million there. The 360 has made a massive jump ahead, in fact the 360 pricecut has been more effective than the PS3 pricecut.

1 Million VS 3 million not 4 in Japan. Microsoft can't expect massive numbers in Japan but it has already doubled the original Xbox sales so its not to shabby.

They convinced shareholders to go ahead with the 360 after the failure of the Xbox ... so why would they not make a new xbox when the 360 is making profits?

How do you know Zune is bleeding money? Its not top dog by any stretch of the immagination but still (watch out for Zune HD)

Yahoo bid failure? how is that bleeding money, might I add Yahoo came crawling back to Microsoft to be turned away.

Chrome isn't stealing any marketshare LOL

Windows 7 will be out shortly.

 

You just hate Microsoft obviously .... boring

 



 

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Jeronimo66 on 16 April 2009
Tim_Duncan said:
I'm not sure there will ever be a next Xbox console, especially if the only country they continue to sell well is the US. When you're half the price of your competitor, you need to sell better than roughly the same as your competitor to succeed...

Ms still didn't recoup the Xbox 1 losses, the 360 is dead in Japan (1 million vs 4 million PS3), and most recent multiplatform games sell more on PS3 worldwide (RE5, SF4...).

I highly doubt it's enough to convince MS shareholders to go on with the gaming market. That was never MS core market anyway, and they're bleeding too much money in every business right now (Zune failure vs Ipod, Yahoo bid failure, IE losing market share to Firefox Safari and Chrome, Vista failure, Office losing market share vs Open Office).

 

LOL, somebody doesn't like Microsoft.

Microsoft is doing fine, if not well.



Tim_Duncans_Mom on 16 April 2009
Tim_Duncan said:
I'm not sure there will ever be a next Xbox console, especially if the only country they continue to sell well is the US. When you're half the price of your competitor, you need to sell better than roughly the same as your competitor to succeed...

Ms still didn't recoup the Xbox 1 losses, the 360 is dead in Japan (1 million vs 4 million PS3), and most recent multiplatform games sell more on PS3 worldwide (RE5, SF4...).

I highly doubt it's enough to convince MS shareholders to go on with the gaming market. That was never MS core market anyway, and they're bleeding too much money in every business right now (Zune failure vs Ipod, Yahoo bid failure, IE losing market share to Firefox Safari and Chrome, Vista failure, Office losing market share vs Open Office).

Now now, Timmothy.  You better behave or I'll have to take your computer privelages away again!  Get your 12-year-old butt in the bathtub like I told you to an hour ago!



Slimebeast on 16 April 2009

1. What Will It Be Called?
2. When Will It Release?
3. What Controls Will It Use?
4. Will It Win The Next Console War?
5. Will Microsoft ever make a hanheld console?


1. Xbox 3
2. Nov 2011
3. Rumble and X-mote
4. It'll come 2nd after Nintendo (Wii2: 120mill, Xbox3:100mill, PS4:75 mill)
5. Yes, of course



Dark Chaos on 16 April 2009
Tim_Duncans_Mom said:
Tim_Duncan said:
I'm not sure there will ever be a next Xbox console, especially if the only country they continue to sell well is the US. When you're half the price of your competitor, you need to sell better than roughly the same as your competitor to succeed...

Ms still didn't recoup the Xbox 1 losses, the 360 is dead in Japan (1 million vs 4 million PS3), and most recent multiplatform games sell more on PS3 worldwide (RE5, SF4...).

I highly doubt it's enough to convince MS shareholders to go on with the gaming market. That was never MS core market anyway, and they're bleeding too much money in every business right now (Zune failure vs Ipod, Yahoo bid failure, IE losing market share to Firefox Safari and Chrome, Vista failure, Office losing market share vs Open Office).

Now now, Timmothy.  You better behave or I'll have to take your computer privelages away again!  Get your 12-year-old butt in the bathtub like I told you to an hour ago!

LOL. Nice mom.

 



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Tim_Duncan on 19 April 2009

You look butthurt... I'm sorry, I didn't want to offend you, I just gave my opinion, which is there won't be any 'next MS console'. I gave arguments too.



nightsurge on 21 April 2009
Tim_Duncan said:
You look butthurt... I'm sorry, I didn't want to offend you, I just gave my opinion, which is there won't be any 'next MS console'. I gave arguments too.

That's a very rude and incorrect thing to say.  Also, you didn't offend anyone.  If anything you amuse us with your flawed arguments.

Allow me to explain:

Tim_Duncan said:
I'm not sure there will ever be a next Xbox console, especially if the only country they continue to sell well is the US. When you're half the price of your competitor, you need to sell better than roughly the same as your competitor to succeed...

The Xbox 360 outsells the PS3 in all regions BUT Japan.  So by this logic the PS3 should drop out because the only place it is selling well is in Japan, which has a much smaller user base.  Also, Aaron Greenburg just announced that the Xbox 360 Pro console is the main seller of the 3, that's the $300 console and is only $100 cheaper, not half price.

Ms still didn't recoup the Xbox 1 losses, the 360 is dead in Japan (1 million vs 3 million PS3), and most recent multiplatform games sell more on PS3 worldwide (RE5, SF4...).

The 360 doubled it's userbase in Japan over last gen already.  The PS3 will be lucky to reach half the userbase they had with the PS2.  Who's looking worse in Japan now?  Also, only like 3 multiplatform games in the last 5 months have sold better on the PS3.  Of those, RE5 will eventually shift to selling more on the 360.  So out of all those recent releases, Sony only sold more on 2 occasions.  That's not exactly in line with what "most" would imply.

I highly doubt it's enough to convince MS shareholders to go on with the gaming market. That was never MS core market anyway, and they're bleeding too much money in every business right now (Zune failure vs Ipod, Yahoo bid failure, IE losing market share to Firefox Safari and Chrome, Vista failure, Office losing market share vs Open Office).

And to wrap up this failure of a closing argument.  MS had great profits the last year, including their gaming division and Zune division.  Sony on the other hand had 2.9 Billion USD LOSS so which shareholders do you really think are on edge?  Sure the Zune doesn't have a high marketshare, but it isn't losing them money.  The Yahoo bid "failure" did not lose them any money at all.  IE is definitely a sucky browser, no doubt, but it isn't a profitable browser either.  They don't "sell" IE, so why would they care how many people use it?  Oh and it still holds like 65% marketshare over the other browsers.  Vista was not a failure.  Sure it had original delays and bugs, but it has since become a very sturdy platform with a lot of users.  Windows 7 will vastly improve upon that, so it looks like MS is doing good.  Oh and Open Office?!  You seriously think MS is losing much market share to Open Office?!  I would love to see some evidence to back that up.