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pearljammer said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
seece said:
CRIING, so typial ... Morgan and Cowell think oh dear this is gonna be bad, then she turns out to be great, that was done on the first BGT and it didn't give me goosebumps then either.

I stopped watching these crap talent shows years ago, and all I could think was, she is up in front of millions ... you would think she would make a bit of an effort with her appearence ...


I guess I'm just a shallow twit at the end of the day :

 

Some people are just plain unattractive.  They can't really do anything about it.  What's unfortunate is when their lives are ruined because of that.  I'm betting if this woman were reasonably attractive, she'd be a singing legend right now.

 

Man, if you and everyone else think she could be legendary yall have some serious learning to do.  I had a nice post written up with a crapload of videos of people that are easily better than her but my browser froze and I lost it.

Anyways, I'm not saying she's bad by any means, in fact she is good, she's just nothing at all extraordinary.

 

A quick glance over this thread would tell you that no one outside the OP stated as such.

I would most definately agree with you here. She, like everybody else, could hardly be compared to Elaine Page and she's certainly not as delightful as Kristin Chenoweth (girlfriend and I would have loved to have seen her in Wicked... where I live, there isn't much opportunity to see much of anything ) but I think most people simply viewed this somewhat as a cinderella story.

Is this case any more unique than many others we've seen like it? No, but that doesn't make it any less touching.

 

Did you read the post I quoted?  >_>

I agree it's touching, though the first two judges were kind of dicks with their comments talking about their first impressions, but at least they were honest I guess. 

I'm just pointing out to the people that think she's the most incredible voice out there that there is so much better out there.  Yes, compared to the Brittney Spears and Beyonce's or whoever is popular, she blows them out of the water, but that's like beating a six year old at arm wrestling.

And yeah Kristin Chenoweth has this annoying little nasal voice but damnit I like her.  It's a shame in the entire span of Pushing Daisies they only had her sing, what, twice?  Such a waste.  They even had Ellen Greene on the show and didn't have her sing once I think, though that's understandable since she had throat cancer at point I think.



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twesterm said:
pearljammer said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
seece said:
CRIING, so typial ... Morgan and Cowell think oh dear this is gonna be bad, then she turns out to be great, that was done on the first BGT and it didn't give me goosebumps then either.

I stopped watching these crap talent shows years ago, and all I could think was, she is up in front of millions ... you would think she would make a bit of an effort with her appearence ...


I guess I'm just a shallow twit at the end of the day :

 

Some people are just plain unattractive.  They can't really do anything about it.  What's unfortunate is when their lives are ruined because of that.  I'm betting if this woman were reasonably attractive, she'd be a singing legend right now.

 

Man, if you and everyone else think she could be legendary yall have some serious learning to do.  I had a nice post written up with a crapload of videos of people that are easily better than her but my browser froze and I lost it.

Anyways, I'm not saying she's bad by any means, in fact she is good, she's just nothing at all extraordinary.

 

A quick glance over this thread would tell you that no one outside the OP stated as such.

I would most definately agree with you here. She, like everybody else, could hardly be compared to Elaine Page and she's certainly not as delightful as Kristin Chenoweth (girlfriend and I would have loved to have seen her in Wicked... where I live, there isn't much opportunity to see much of anything ) but I think most people simply viewed this somewhat as a cinderella story.

Is this case any more unique than many others we've seen like it? No, but that doesn't make it any less touching.

 

Did you read the post I quoted?  >_>

I agree it's touching, though the first two judges were kind of dicks with their comments talking about their first impressions, but at least they were honest I guess. 

I'm just pointing out to the people that think she's the most incredible voice out there that there is so much better out there.  Yes, compared to the Brittney Spears and Beyonce's or whoever is popular, she blows them out of the water, but that's like beating a six year old at arm wrestling.

And yeah Kristin Chenoweth has this annoying little nasal voice but damnit I like her.  It's a shame in the entire span of Pushing Daisies they only had her sing, what, twice?  Such a waste.  They even had Ellen Greene on the show and didn't have her sing once I think, though that's understandable since she had throat cancer at point I think.

I never said she'd be better than Elaine Page.  Thanks for the whole strawman argument thing.  I appreciate it.  I said she could be a legend.  I feel that's hardly debatable.  Some of the most well known (simular to popular) singers today don't come anywhere near this.  You just acknowledged she's far better than Britney Spears and Beyonce, and the latter, if not a legend, will come very close to being one (not because her singing's better than that of everyone else, but because of her success).

 



tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:
pearljammer said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
seece said:
CRIING, so typial ... Morgan and Cowell think oh dear this is gonna be bad, then she turns out to be great, that was done on the first BGT and it didn't give me goosebumps then either.

I stopped watching these crap talent shows years ago, and all I could think was, she is up in front of millions ... you would think she would make a bit of an effort with her appearence ...


I guess I'm just a shallow twit at the end of the day :

 

Some people are just plain unattractive.  They can't really do anything about it.  What's unfortunate is when their lives are ruined because of that.  I'm betting if this woman were reasonably attractive, she'd be a singing legend right now.

 

Man, if you and everyone else think she could be legendary yall have some serious learning to do.  I had a nice post written up with a crapload of videos of people that are easily better than her but my browser froze and I lost it.

Anyways, I'm not saying she's bad by any means, in fact she is good, she's just nothing at all extraordinary.

 

A quick glance over this thread would tell you that no one outside the OP stated as such.

I would most definately agree with you here. She, like everybody else, could hardly be compared to Elaine Page and she's certainly not as delightful as Kristin Chenoweth (girlfriend and I would have loved to have seen her in Wicked... where I live, there isn't much opportunity to see much of anything ) but I think most people simply viewed this somewhat as a cinderella story.

Is this case any more unique than many others we've seen like it? No, but that doesn't make it any less touching.

 

Did you read the post I quoted?  >_>

I agree it's touching, though the first two judges were kind of dicks with their comments talking about their first impressions, but at least they were honest I guess. 

I'm just pointing out to the people that think she's the most incredible voice out there that there is so much better out there.  Yes, compared to the Brittney Spears and Beyonce's or whoever is popular, she blows them out of the water, but that's like beating a six year old at arm wrestling.

And yeah Kristin Chenoweth has this annoying little nasal voice but damnit I like her.  It's a shame in the entire span of Pushing Daisies they only had her sing, what, twice?  Such a waste.  They even had Ellen Greene on the show and didn't have her sing once I think, though that's understandable since she had throat cancer at point I think.

I never said she'd be better than Elaine Page.  Thanks for the whole strawman argument thing.  I appreciate it.  I said she could be a legend.  I feel that's hardly debatable.  Some of the most well known (simular to popular) singers today don't come anywhere near this.  You just acknowledged she's far better than Britney Spears and Beyonce, and the latter, if not a legend, will come very close to being one (not because her singing's better than that of everyone else, but because of her success).

 

 

I don't think you got my point about Britney Spears and other popular artists in that howling dogs are better than them but whatever.



twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:
pearljammer said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
seece said:
CRIING, so typial ... Morgan and Cowell think oh dear this is gonna be bad, then she turns out to be great, that was done on the first BGT and it didn't give me goosebumps then either.

I stopped watching these crap talent shows years ago, and all I could think was, she is up in front of millions ... you would think she would make a bit of an effort with her appearence ...


I guess I'm just a shallow twit at the end of the day :

 

Some people are just plain unattractive.  They can't really do anything about it.  What's unfortunate is when their lives are ruined because of that.  I'm betting if this woman were reasonably attractive, she'd be a singing legend right now.

 

Man, if you and everyone else think she could be legendary yall have some serious learning to do.  I had a nice post written up with a crapload of videos of people that are easily better than her but my browser froze and I lost it.

Anyways, I'm not saying she's bad by any means, in fact she is good, she's just nothing at all extraordinary.

 

A quick glance over this thread would tell you that no one outside the OP stated as such.

I would most definately agree with you here. She, like everybody else, could hardly be compared to Elaine Page and she's certainly not as delightful as Kristin Chenoweth (girlfriend and I would have loved to have seen her in Wicked... where I live, there isn't much opportunity to see much of anything ) but I think most people simply viewed this somewhat as a cinderella story.

Is this case any more unique than many others we've seen like it? No, but that doesn't make it any less touching.

 

Did you read the post I quoted?  >_>

I agree it's touching, though the first two judges were kind of dicks with their comments talking about their first impressions, but at least they were honest I guess. 

I'm just pointing out to the people that think she's the most incredible voice out there that there is so much better out there.  Yes, compared to the Brittney Spears and Beyonce's or whoever is popular, she blows them out of the water, but that's like beating a six year old at arm wrestling.

And yeah Kristin Chenoweth has this annoying little nasal voice but damnit I like her.  It's a shame in the entire span of Pushing Daisies they only had her sing, what, twice?  Such a waste.  They even had Ellen Greene on the show and didn't have her sing once I think, though that's understandable since she had throat cancer at point I think.

I never said she'd be better than Elaine Page.  Thanks for the whole strawman argument thing.  I appreciate it.  I said she could be a legend.  I feel that's hardly debatable.  Some of the most well known (simular to popular) singers today don't come anywhere near this.  You just acknowledged she's far better than Britney Spears and Beyonce, and the latter, if not a legend, will come very close to being one (not because her singing's better than that of everyone else, but because of her success).

 

 

I don't think you got my point about Britney Spears and other popular artists in that howling dogs are better than them but whatever.

I do get your point, but they could still easily be legends despite that.  All I'm saying is if they could do that just by being able to carry a tune, imagine what someone like that woman could do if she were as attractive as they were/are.

 



tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:
pearljammer said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
seece said:
CRIING, so typial ... Morgan and Cowell think oh dear this is gonna be bad, then she turns out to be great, that was done on the first BGT and it didn't give me goosebumps then either.

I stopped watching these crap talent shows years ago, and all I could think was, she is up in front of millions ... you would think she would make a bit of an effort with her appearence ...


I guess I'm just a shallow twit at the end of the day :

 

Some people are just plain unattractive.  They can't really do anything about it.  What's unfortunate is when their lives are ruined because of that.  I'm betting if this woman were reasonably attractive, she'd be a singing legend right now.

 

Man, if you and everyone else think she could be legendary yall have some serious learning to do.  I had a nice post written up with a crapload of videos of people that are easily better than her but my browser froze and I lost it.

Anyways, I'm not saying she's bad by any means, in fact she is good, she's just nothing at all extraordinary.

 

A quick glance over this thread would tell you that no one outside the OP stated as such.

I would most definately agree with you here. She, like everybody else, could hardly be compared to Elaine Page and she's certainly not as delightful as Kristin Chenoweth (girlfriend and I would have loved to have seen her in Wicked... where I live, there isn't much opportunity to see much of anything ) but I think most people simply viewed this somewhat as a cinderella story.

Is this case any more unique than many others we've seen like it? No, but that doesn't make it any less touching.

 

Did you read the post I quoted?  >_>

I agree it's touching, though the first two judges were kind of dicks with their comments talking about their first impressions, but at least they were honest I guess. 

I'm just pointing out to the people that think she's the most incredible voice out there that there is so much better out there.  Yes, compared to the Brittney Spears and Beyonce's or whoever is popular, she blows them out of the water, but that's like beating a six year old at arm wrestling.

And yeah Kristin Chenoweth has this annoying little nasal voice but damnit I like her.  It's a shame in the entire span of Pushing Daisies they only had her sing, what, twice?  Such a waste.  They even had Ellen Greene on the show and didn't have her sing once I think, though that's understandable since she had throat cancer at point I think.

I never said she'd be better than Elaine Page.  Thanks for the whole strawman argument thing.  I appreciate it.  I said she could be a legend.  I feel that's hardly debatable.  Some of the most well known (simular to popular) singers today don't come anywhere near this.  You just acknowledged she's far better than Britney Spears and Beyonce, and the latter, if not a legend, will come very close to being one (not because her singing's better than that of everyone else, but because of her success).

 

 

I don't think you got my point about Britney Spears and other popular artists in that howling dogs are better than them but whatever.

I do get your point, but they could still easily be legends despite that.  All I'm saying is if they could do that just by being able to carry a tune, imagine what someone like that woman could do if she were as attractive as they were/are.

 

 

There are a few things wrong with your statement:

  1. She's not ugly, she just doesn't know how to present herself.  Just because someone isn't built like a supermodel doesn't mean they're hideous.  Give that woman a day with the What Not To Wear people and she could look fantastic and nobody would call her ugly by any means.
  2. You don't have to be a super model to be in a show.  The great thing about stage is that there are no close ups.  Hell, even spend an hour on youTube and look at the people in shows and you'll realize they are not all the super glamorous people.
  3. Finally, as I said, she doesn't have that amazing of a voice.  She has a better voice than your usualy pop artist, but as you pointed out she's never going to be one.  If she were to try to get onto stage productions, she probably wouldn't make it either because there are just better out there.  Or I'm sorry, she would make it, but she would never be the top person on a big show, be an understufy, or either catch the lead and play in a crappy place like Dallas.

She could be absolutely stunning and she would still probably not get far at all.  The only ones that make a huge deal of her looks are the producers of the show because they want a better show that more people to talk about.



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twesterm said:
pearljammer said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
seece said:
CRIING, so typial ... Morgan and Cowell think oh dear this is gonna be bad, then she turns out to be great, that was done on the first BGT and it didn't give me goosebumps then either.

I stopped watching these crap talent shows years ago, and all I could think was, she is up in front of millions ... you would think she would make a bit of an effort with her appearence ...


I guess I'm just a shallow twit at the end of the day :

 

Some people are just plain unattractive.  They can't really do anything about it.  What's unfortunate is when their lives are ruined because of that.  I'm betting if this woman were reasonably attractive, she'd be a singing legend right now.

 

Man, if you and everyone else think she could be legendary yall have some serious learning to do.  I had a nice post written up with a crapload of videos of people that are easily better than her but my browser froze and I lost it.

Anyways, I'm not saying she's bad by any means, in fact she is good, she's just nothing at all extraordinary.

 

A quick glance over this thread would tell you that no one outside the OP stated as such.

I would most definately agree with you here. She, like everybody else, could hardly be compared to Elaine Page and she's certainly not as delightful as Kristin Chenoweth (girlfriend and I would have loved to have seen her in Wicked... where I live, there isn't much opportunity to see much of anything ) but I think most people simply viewed this somewhat as a cinderella story.

Is this case any more unique than many others we've seen like it? No, but that doesn't make it any less touching.

 

Did you read the post I quoted?  >_>

I agree it's touching, though the first two judges were kind of dicks with their comments talking about their first impressions, but at least they were honest I guess. 

I'm just pointing out to the people that think she's the most incredible voice out there that there is so much better out there.  Yes, compared to the Brittney Spears and Beyonce's or whoever is popular, she blows them out of the water, but that's like beating a six year old at arm wrestling.

And yeah Kristin Chenoweth has this annoying little nasal voice but damnit I like her.  It's a shame in the entire span of Pushing Daisies they only had her sing, what, twice?  Such a waste.  They even had Ellen Greene on the show and didn't have her sing once I think, though that's understandable since she had throat cancer at point I think.

I did yes. He was the OP, as I said

I agree with you though, a legend I don't think she could ever be. She's just really, really good.

She is a bit nasaly, but I think it adds to her style... I'm just making excuses, I even liked her version of 'That's How You Know' from Enchanted at the Oscars, a movie that I, unashamedly, love.



pearljammer said:
twesterm said:
pearljammer said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
seece said:
CRIING, so typial ... Morgan and Cowell think oh dear this is gonna be bad, then she turns out to be great, that was done on the first BGT and it didn't give me goosebumps then either.

I stopped watching these crap talent shows years ago, and all I could think was, she is up in front of millions ... you would think she would make a bit of an effort with her appearence ...


I guess I'm just a shallow twit at the end of the day :

 

Some people are just plain unattractive.  They can't really do anything about it.  What's unfortunate is when their lives are ruined because of that.  I'm betting if this woman were reasonably attractive, she'd be a singing legend right now.

 

Man, if you and everyone else think she could be legendary yall have some serious learning to do.  I had a nice post written up with a crapload of videos of people that are easily better than her but my browser froze and I lost it.

Anyways, I'm not saying she's bad by any means, in fact she is good, she's just nothing at all extraordinary.

 

A quick glance over this thread would tell you that no one outside the OP stated as such.

I would most definately agree with you here. She, like everybody else, could hardly be compared to Elaine Page and she's certainly not as delightful as Kristin Chenoweth (girlfriend and I would have loved to have seen her in Wicked... where I live, there isn't much opportunity to see much of anything ) but I think most people simply viewed this somewhat as a cinderella story.

Is this case any more unique than many others we've seen like it? No, but that doesn't make it any less touching.

 

Did you read the post I quoted?  >_>

I agree it's touching, though the first two judges were kind of dicks with their comments talking about their first impressions, but at least they were honest I guess. 

I'm just pointing out to the people that think she's the most incredible voice out there that there is so much better out there.  Yes, compared to the Brittney Spears and Beyonce's or whoever is popular, she blows them out of the water, but that's like beating a six year old at arm wrestling.

And yeah Kristin Chenoweth has this annoying little nasal voice but damnit I like her.  It's a shame in the entire span of Pushing Daisies they only had her sing, what, twice?  Such a waste.  They even had Ellen Greene on the show and didn't have her sing once I think, though that's understandable since she had throat cancer at point I think.

I did yes. He was the OP, as I said

I agree with you though, a legend I don't think she could ever be. She's just really, really good.

She is a bit nasaly, but I think it adds to her style... I'm just making excuses, I even liked her version of 'That's How You Know' from Enchanted at the Oscars, a movie that I, unashamedly, love.

lol, I guess I should have looked who the OP was!  >_<

 



twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:
pearljammer said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
seece said:
CRIING, so typial ... Morgan and Cowell think oh dear this is gonna be bad, then she turns out to be great, that was done on the first BGT and it didn't give me goosebumps then either.

I stopped watching these crap talent shows years ago, and all I could think was, she is up in front of millions ... you would think she would make a bit of an effort with her appearence ...


I guess I'm just a shallow twit at the end of the day :

 

Some people are just plain unattractive.  They can't really do anything about it.  What's unfortunate is when their lives are ruined because of that.  I'm betting if this woman were reasonably attractive, she'd be a singing legend right now.

 

Man, if you and everyone else think she could be legendary yall have some serious learning to do.  I had a nice post written up with a crapload of videos of people that are easily better than her but my browser froze and I lost it.

Anyways, I'm not saying she's bad by any means, in fact she is good, she's just nothing at all extraordinary.

 

A quick glance over this thread would tell you that no one outside the OP stated as such.

I would most definately agree with you here. She, like everybody else, could hardly be compared to Elaine Page and she's certainly not as delightful as Kristin Chenoweth (girlfriend and I would have loved to have seen her in Wicked... where I live, there isn't much opportunity to see much of anything ) but I think most people simply viewed this somewhat as a cinderella story.

Is this case any more unique than many others we've seen like it? No, but that doesn't make it any less touching.

 

Did you read the post I quoted?  >_>

I agree it's touching, though the first two judges were kind of dicks with their comments talking about their first impressions, but at least they were honest I guess. 

I'm just pointing out to the people that think she's the most incredible voice out there that there is so much better out there.  Yes, compared to the Brittney Spears and Beyonce's or whoever is popular, she blows them out of the water, but that's like beating a six year old at arm wrestling.

And yeah Kristin Chenoweth has this annoying little nasal voice but damnit I like her.  It's a shame in the entire span of Pushing Daisies they only had her sing, what, twice?  Such a waste.  They even had Ellen Greene on the show and didn't have her sing once I think, though that's understandable since she had throat cancer at point I think.

I never said she'd be better than Elaine Page.  Thanks for the whole strawman argument thing.  I appreciate it.  I said she could be a legend.  I feel that's hardly debatable.  Some of the most well known (simular to popular) singers today don't come anywhere near this.  You just acknowledged she's far better than Britney Spears and Beyonce, and the latter, if not a legend, will come very close to being one (not because her singing's better than that of everyone else, but because of her success).

 

 

I don't think you got my point about Britney Spears and other popular artists in that howling dogs are better than them but whatever.

I do get your point, but they could still easily be legends despite that.  All I'm saying is if they could do that just by being able to carry a tune, imagine what someone like that woman could do if she were as attractive as they were/are.

 

 

There are a few things wrong with your statement:

  1. She's not ugly, she just doesn't know how to present herself.  Just because someone isn't built like a supermodel doesn't mean they're hideous.  Give that woman a day with the What Not To Wear people and she could look fantastic and nobody would call her ugly by any means.
  2. You don't have to be a super model to be in a show.  The great thing about stage is that there are no close ups.  Hell, even spend an hour on youTube and look at the people in shows and you'll realize they are not all the super glamorous people.
  3. Finally, as I said, she doesn't have that amazing of a voice.  She has a better voice than your usualy pop artist, but as you pointed out she's never going to be one.  If she were to try to get onto stage productions, she probably wouldn't make it either because there are just better out there.  Or I'm sorry, she would make it, but she would never be the top person on a big show, be an understufy, or either catch the lead and play in a crappy place like Dallas.

She could be absolutely stunning and she would still probably not get far at all.

 

First, I'd like to say that I see a lot of what you're saying, but I think we're talking about different things.  Before I start that, let me say I think you're assuming too much about her singing ability.  We don't know whether she's had any proper lessons, and I'm betitng she hasn't.  It's not impossible that she could improve.  I'm not saying that it's a definite bet, but to judge her abilities so completely is a bit hasty in my opinion.  Second, I'm not talking about stage.  I'm saying, look at someone like Lily Allen or Katy Perry who're reasonable attractive and can sing decently, and look at the success they're achieving.  Now, substitute a reasonably attractive woman who can sing very well for one of those reasonably attractive women who can sing decently, and imagine the success they could achieve.



xtastemyvenom said:
they showed this on my local news channel yesterday.

 

lmao! is that even news?



LoL @ testern

 

Here is a picture of Sara Brightman:

 

Are u honestly comparing her looks to Susan Boyle??

 

Anyways, i didn't watch that Susan Boyle video & i've seen it in quite a few places.  She's just too fugly to look at.