You heard it here, a game has to sell a million in less than a month to be successful.

My 2500 PS2 flops thread is ringing some serious bells right now.

If this was on an HD console, and it flopped, we wouldn't hear about it, like the dozens of other flops on the HD consoles. The Wii catches all the flak like it is the only system that can have flop games.

Now that we're at it, Valkyria Chronicles should've been on the Wii. Dragon Quest Swords blew that thing out of the water, and it was an on-rails RPG.




See how ridiculous this is?

You know why I wanted Madworld to flop? Personally, I thought the game looked great. I wanted it to be successful. Know what ruined it? Nintendo fanboys. If the game was successful, you'd essentially end up with threads like these. Pretentious threads equivalent to "nah nah nah nah nah nah, you were wrong and I was right." This happens every time a niche Wii game sells well that was hyped on this site.

By the way, I'd wait more than a couple weeks before making any decisions on whether or not it flopped. Remember how Zack and Wiki and No More Heroes got adjusted down? That didn't mean they weren't still successful, but the same thing could happen here.

Don't hype up a lightning rod of hate if you can't take the hate. Madworld was going to get criticism.

Right. Because we never hear about HD flops, right? That's why there were tons of threads talking about flopped games like Haze, Too Human, etc. Madworld was a hyped exclusive on this site, so naturally it would get a lot of attention if its numbers didn't seem up to snuff. Most people don't mention HD flops because many of them aren't that notable (such as Conflict: Denied Ops, The Club, or many other titles). As for your Valkyria Chronicles bit, oh please. Dragon Quest is one of the biggest JRPG series on the face of the planet, and Valkyria Chronicles was in a niche genre as well (strategy RPG).

But wouldn't they have been directing that so-called pretentiousness to anti-Wii trolls (you know, the ones with the Wii-is-a-kiddy-toy mentality)?  Why would you want it to flop because of that?

it is if it has a low start apparently

The problem is that the people who say things like that (the Wii is a toy, has no games, is kiddy, etc.), well, I don't really respect them. I don't listen to what they say because I often know before even reading it that it's not worth it. When I do read it, it doesn't bother me nearly as much because I have such a low view on the person. Whereas in a case like this, I can actually put the person in a view of respect and get bothered by what they say.

Those are terrible numbers, I wouldn't be celebrating...

you know what's funny, Haze a game hailed as an epic failure sold 154k in one week, while we are celebrating 170k after 4 weeks. wow!

I think we can safely say that there was a good bit of a difference in the budgets of Madworld and Haze.

My point still stands, Lets wait for 500k, 700k, 1 million. There's really nothing to celabrate right now. And, that game got tons of marketing.