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MrBubbles on 15 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
MrBubbles said:

 

you could say i dislike agressive, violent, and racist protesters ... and then you would be right.  however, you would have no reason to say that it has clouded my judgement...the guy was in their way and the woman continued to get right up to him when he is swarmed by other people as well(you can see him pushing at other people outside the view of the camera(interesting the camera moved away from them...in all likelyhood that event was staged for the camera).  You claimed he was beaten, when he wasnt...demonstrating your separation from the reality of the incident.  i would say you might be able to argue that the officer used more force than required on the man...but since you are in your own reality, it would be pointless.

please prove that they were being violent and racist, aggressive maybe, but the response would still be extreme, but they werent violent or racist.

i really doubt it was staged, why would the women voulunteer to get beaten?

there is a video that shows him being beaten on ITN

edit: the footage is on this link - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2009/apr/08/g20-police-assault-ian-tomlinson-video

 

i didnt actually say they were racist.  i just dislike racist protesters.  like the "anti-israeli" ones that go to rallies with pro-hitler signs and chanting things like "dirty jews". 

they were violent though. heres a couple videos.  there are plenty of others on youtube though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj5o3Ybmyv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=343bCGrM3nU

 

 



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MrBubbles on 15 April 2009

btw...that video doesnt show them beating him.



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SciFiBoy on 15 April 2009
MrBubbles said:

i didnt actually say they were racist.  i just dislike racist protesters.  like the "anti-israeli" ones that go to rallies with pro-hitler signs and chanting things like "dirty jews".  thats fine, but not really relevant.

they were violent though. heres a couple videos.  there are plenty of others on youtube though. sure, there are a vast minority of idiots, but the people that im talking about werent violent, the police reaction was extreme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj5o3Ybmyv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=343bCGrM3nU

 



SciFiBoy on 15 April 2009
MrBubbles said:
btw...that video doesnt show them beating him.

 

it shows them striking him with a baton, what do you classify as a beating?



Rath on 15 April 2009

I wonder why it seems that the people who are on the right of the political scale are the ones that favor police brutality?

In my opinion she wasn't physically hassling him, only verbally. Its not actually illegal to do that. Therefore what he did was assault.

Mind you I don't think its a systematic problem with the police force, just a few bad eggs with issues.



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halogamer1989 on 15 April 2009

I don't know if he was pushed but a policeman has the right to defend himself by force to the death if threatened, verbally and esp physically. Those Brits need to stop fucking w/ their officials.



MrBubbles on 15 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
MrBubbles said:
btw...that video doesnt show them beating him.

 

it shows them striking him with a baton, what do you classify as a beating?

 



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Tyrannical on 15 April 2009
SciFiBoy said:
MrBubbles said:
btw...that video doesnt show them beating him.

 

it shows them striking him with a baton, what do you classify as a beating?

 

 

I'd really love to show you.......



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MrBubbles on 15 April 2009

I wonder why it seems that the people who are on the left of the political scale are the ones that favor attacking police?



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SciFiBoy on 15 April 2009
halogamer1989 said:
I don't know if he was pushed but a policeman has the right to defend himself by force to the death if threatened, verbally and esp physically. Those Brits need to stop fucking w/ their officials.

 

the guy who died, didnt appear to be doing anything other than walk past the police

the women swore at the guy, but thats not illegal here, in both cases, the police reaction was extreme

they werent f***ing with the officials, they were protesters, i think some of you would do well to look up protester in the dictionary

i dont really think that being sworn at, should be seen as enough reason to beat someone, these are officials, not schoolyard bullys were talking about.

to clarify, im not attacking all police, just the few idiots who think that they can beat protesters without good reason.