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Jordahn on 14 April 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:
Jordahn said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
Jordahn said:

That's in of itself is correct.  But in context, it is illegal to use a monopoly to influence decisions on others.  See "Department of Justice vs. Microsoft."  In this specific case of Microsoft buying exclusives in the console industry it might not be illegal, but in principle it's unethical.  It can be argued that Microsoft's "deep pockets" stemmed form their monopolistic practices that has now establish themselves in a somewhat financial secure situation.  This does put Microsoft in an unfair position when compared to other competing companies because most of those those companies will not have that financial leverage gained from legit competition as opposed to monopolistic practices employed by Microsoft.  At one time Microsoft did go on a shopping spree... to buy out Nintendo during "Project Dolphin" now known as the Gamecube.  Whether or not Nintendo took them seriously, Microsoft wanted Nintendo to stop making console hardware.  So Nintendo politely said "Go screw yourself."  So Microsoft blatantly lied to the public that Nintendo wasn't in competition with them.  If Nintendo wasn't, Microsoft would not have tried to employ their monopolistic practices to remove Nintendo from the competition to begin with.  Thank God Nintendo stuck with their guns in the face of Microsoft.  So... What if Microsoft goes on a shopping spree?  The answer is simple: Because of the past and current nature of Microsoft, they hurt the gaming console industry.

 

Have a tissue.

Microsoft is only doing the exact same thing Sony did to enter the market: overpower the traditional players using resources from HQ. Buying exclusives was one of the elements used by Sony in these days as well: Tomb Raider is just an example.

Why does it bother you that Microsoft is doing the same Sony did?

Do you think Sony using the massive resources from their electronics business to trample Nintendo and Sega was fair and ethic?

 

Seems the truth is avoided by at least one...

Nowhere did I say that SONY was innocent of any potential wrong doing.  But you had to interject SONY because you CANNOT argue the FACTS I presented.  The FACTS are that Microsoft is a monopoly and they have used that monopoly to their unethical gains.  And this is just not about gaming consoles because it goes way before that from the "Department of Justice vs. Microsoft" I just quoted.  And I NEVER said that buying exclusives were wrong "in of itself."  The bigger picture paints a more accurate picture.  Try to refute the FACTS that I posted in its correct context.  Otherwise, Wal-mart is having a sale on tampons.  Like for me to get you some...?

;)

 

The only facts present here is that you insist on chastizing microsoft for commonplace business strategies while at the same time turning a blind eye and ignoring the same behaviour by other players.

Why do you only care about business ethics when microsoft is involved? 

(looks at topic thread... basis for topic thread is to talk about that topic... Hmmm...)

 



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Pristine20 on 14 April 2009

Fanboys can forget what capitalism is all about sometimes. $200mil spent so fanboys can brag about winning E3? LMAO.

People get so lost in Sony and M$ executive statements that they forget the purpose of corporations. Did you guys see the advert where M$ basically advertised a VAIO computer and blu-ray? Why? PC sales generate returns for them. How this concept escapes the mind is beyond my comprehension.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

taxman on 14 April 2009

Unfortunately £200m won't buy them as many games as it did in the past and it will get more expensive as the userbase of the PS3 keeps rising. (remember all the counting of million sellers?)



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End of 2009 ltd sales:

Wii = 67-68m

X360 = 38-39m

PS3 = 34-35m

Prediction: The PS3 will surpass the 360 on weekly sales after it drops to $299 on all regular weeks (no big releases).

JRPG on 14 April 2009

I hope they buy up a ton of devs just to piss of the sony friends.
Their tears will be delicious.



Pristine20 on 14 April 2009
kowenicki said:
@prisitne

I have to say that Sony Computer Entertainment has occasionally acted like a giant fanboy this gen... hence the problems they have encountered, both commercially and financially.

 

And I'd have to disagree that anything said by executives had any significant impact on their sales and position today. More like generate discussion on teh internetz...thats the limit to the effect.

Krazy Ken earned that name waaaay before ps3 was even conceptualized, it didn't stop anyone from buying PS consoles back then. If ps3 was affordable and had the elements specific consumers wanted, they'd buy it in droves...'nuff said. you have a ps3, looks like the ranting didn't stop you eh?

Sony is where they are at today because of piss-poor planning and strategy not because X person said Y. this is one sentiment that seriously needs a coffin.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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Pristine20 on 14 April 2009
JRPG said:
I hope they buy up a ton of devs just to piss of the sony friends.
Their tears will be delicious.

 

Just what I was talking about in my earlier post. I hope you won't be running any businesses anytime soon.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

JRPG on 14 April 2009
Pristine20 said:
JRPG said:
I hope they buy up a ton of devs just to piss of the sony friends.
Their tears will be delicious.

 

Just what I was talking about in my earlier post. I hope you won't be running any businesses anytime soon.

 

I did not read any posts in this thread. I'm sure there is some kind of long term backlash to going on a buying spree, but i don't feel like talking about it.



Pristine20 on 14 April 2009
JRPG said:
Pristine20 said:
JRPG said:
I hope they buy up a ton of devs just to piss of the sony friends.
Their tears will be delicious.

 

Just what I was talking about in my earlier post. I hope you won't be running any businesses anytime soon.

 

I did not read any posts in this thread. I'm sure there is some kind of long term backlash to going on a buying spree, but i don't feel like talking about it.

 

good; because I can guarantee that with the reasoning behind what you've posted, you certainly won't win any argument that stems from it.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

JRPG on 14 April 2009
Pristine20 said:
JRPG said:
Pristine20 said:
JRPG said:
I hope they buy up a ton of devs just to piss of the sony friends.
Their tears will be delicious.

 

Just what I was talking about in my earlier post. I hope you won't be running any businesses anytime soon.

 

I did not read any posts in this thread. I'm sure there is some kind of long term backlash to going on a buying spree, but i don't feel like talking about it.

 

good; because I can guarantee that with the reasoning behind what you've posted, you certainly won't win any argument that stems from it.

 

Probably not, but if i urked one fanboy then it was worth it.



dbot on 14 April 2009
starcraft said:
dbot said:
The PS3 versions of Bioshock 2 and Assasins Creed 2 will generate 2 million in sales. If the Developer/Publisher split is $40 that's 80 million dollars MS would have to invest in those 2 games. I think the reason you are seeing MS buy the exclusive marketing deals for demos, game announcements, and dlc is that it is too expensive to buy exclusive games. Also, 20 million for the next Bethesda game seems way too low.

Assassin's Creed easily.  But do you really see Bioshock 2 PS3 selling two million?

 

I think Bioshock 2 will sell close to 2 million on the PS3 and 2.5 million on the 360.  Bioshock sold 2.16 million on the 360, and the 360 had less than 19 million consoles sold when most of the sales occur.  The PS3 should be close 25 million units when Bioshock 2 releases.  My thoughts depend upon it being a day/date release with the 360 and a metacritic above 85%.  How many do you think it well sell on each platform?

 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.