That's the problem. Shaitan says your holy book is lying, you say Shaitan's holy book is lying.

In the Al Jiwah Satan states "three things are against me and I hate three things". These three things are jewdaism, christianity, and islam. Satan told his followers they are books made against him that came from hateful angels that want to trick and control mankind. Judaism, christianity, and islam, have tricked and controlled mankind throughout history. Well, not judaism so much, but christianity and islam have been forcefully spread, and have spread harmful ideas.

Why should I believe your religion when the Al-Jilwah and Yezidi backstories makes more sense?

Furthermore, why should I believe in your religion over all the other religions out there?

Buddhism, confucism, hinduism, christianity, judaism, paganism, satanism, devil worship, ancestor worship, what makes your religion better than any of these?

You're arguing on the basis of semantics? What's your definition of god?

Mine is beings who came from the sky or spirit world and visited mankind to help, hinder, or observe.

IF us humans were all at peace and altered our DNA so we didn't age, don't you think we would be able to figure out how to make technology to travel to suitable earths and create life?

You do realise that the Shaitan is the devil and has vowed to misguide humans? These books are a way of misguiding people, and in your case they are working. It says that the very three religions which are correct are evil. Ofcourse the Shaitan hates these three religions, he wants to misguide us.

I don't understand your claim that Yeadi stories make more sense.

What makes my religion better than the others? It makes it better than Christianity and Judaism because it remains unaltered. It is better than the others because they were man-made and do not worship an Almighty God, Allah. e.g Buddhists worships Buddha who is actually just a human, hindus worship cows and such...

The main reason being that the Q'uran contains proof that it was sent down by Allah

If you don't believe in Islam then it's your choice. I was doing my duty as a muslim by informing you about my religion.

Your religion is no better than anyone elses.  First off, you obviosly dont understand Bhuddism or Hinduism at all.

Prophet Mohammed was illiterate, but oral tradition was strong in the culture where he lived.  The Quran was only written down after Mohammed died by people who claimed to remember exactly what he said, thats a big leap to think the story remained unaltered during this process.

I'm sorry. I would probably be a Muslim if your holy book had any proof it was sent down by God. But it doesn't have any proof. What you may consider proof doesn't hold up to any thinking mind, and you only think it is proof because of one of several possibilities, the most likely being brain-washing as a child. Sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOS9q77I3oU

http://www.islam101.com/tauheed/provingGodExists.htm

@ wessle

Sometimes I feel like you don't know what you are arguing against, or you just don't pay attention. Here's what I said earlier:

"So god is human-like if you believe in the bible. However, he is also presented as an omniscient being, while having interest in a select few individuals. You could, however, make the argument that he needed to have interest in these individuals for people to have faith that he exists through religion spreading. As for god being cruel in the old testament, he was only testing humanity and punishing the wicked."

"While i'm not so sure about that, the evolution theory, and the creation theory have possibilities in them that humans were made in gods image. Well, they don't refute them. I mean, what if humans gradually changed into gods image? But because god doesn't have a physical image, you might compare his form to a cloud. Up close it looks like nothing, but from far away it might look like a dragon or something. I just don't think anybody can possibly imagine the big picture of a god, or how one can exist."

So I believe god is an omniscient being, and that he made humans in his image, yet we cannot know what he truly looks like. In all honesty, his image could just be what he wants mankind to represent, and he can have many images. Or it could just be the human interpretation.

And regarding technology: we would not only have to alter our DNA.. But also our environment. And considering the human condition, wars are only inevitable, meaning progress will eventually be lost again. The dark ages say "Konnichiwa!" But because eventually a civilization will make enough progress to make great strides in those fields you mentioned, we would be able to do somethi9ng similar. But the chances of it happening in this wide open universe are minute.

I do realize Shaitan is called the deceiver.

But why should I trust your god "Allah", over Shaitan?

Shaitan says the god of judaism, christianity, and islam do not exist. It's a false manifestation created by angels. Shaitan says angels created them to control mankind, and give a bad name to Shaitan and his demons. There's proof that christianity and islam have been controlling factors in mankind, and there's proof that they have given Shaitan and his demons a bad name. Where is the proof that Shaitan deceived mankind?

The Yezidi story makes more sense because, God created Shaitan in his image of light, told Shaitan not to bow down to anything. God created man from earth, told Shaitan to bow down. Shaitan refused as it contradicted the previous command. God appointed Shaitan ruler of this earth and made him leader of all demons. Shaitan then made Adam eat from the tree of knowledge, and mankind has been gaining more knowledge ever since.

The story from the Quran states Shaitan was wicked, then God made Adam and told Shaitan to bow down. Shaitan refused out of pride, then God was displeased and cursed him to infinite hellfire, but god let Shaitan convince Adam to eat from the tree of knowledge, and he's been deceiving mankind ever since. At the end times God will throw Shaitan into hellfire along with all his followers.

Which story makes more sense to you?

Oh, and buddhists don't worship buddha, they worship his teachings, and he was a manifestation of his teachings. He represents his teachings.

Where's the proof that Allah's book and story are not a lie, and it's not just a method by angels to control mankind?

Thanks for trying to convert me, but I'm pretty firm in my agnosticism. Agnosticism is the only logical view, since I can't see the past and don't know how we were created or formed.

Again, that's not proof. That wasn't much of anything. A few week strings that I could cut with my pinky.

Show REAL proof that he existed. I know that you can't show me anything, but I'm interested in seeing you trying. You have to do better than the above links, though. Much better, for me to even think about it.

First of all, why would God have an image?  Image implies something physical, and if God created the physical unvirse he would not be a physcial being.

The only reason you believe man was made in God's iamge is because the Bible says it anyway.  Perhaps a better way to got about it is to ask, "where did the Bible come from?"

The stories of the Hebrew Bible were borrowed from the stories of ancient Babylon.  Its common knowledge that the Hebrews borrowed a lot from the Babylonians, from their beliefs on science and astronomy to stories such as Noah's Flood (Gilgamesh).  What isnt as much common knowledge is that the Hebrew religion is an offshoot of Babylonian religion.  Just read the Enuma Elish, Babylonian Creation story that pre-dates the Bible, to see where the Hebrews got their relgion from.

Obvious things Hebrews borrowed from the Babylonian creation story is how Marduk, the king of the Babylonian gods, created the Earth, created humans in the image of the gods, and the creation in 6 days and rest on the 7th (Babylonian gods feasted on the 7th).

http://www.sacred-texts.com/ane/enuma.htm

Marduk is the God of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.  The Babylonian story has Marduk as the king of gods instead of the sole god  ruling over angels that he would later become.

What did you think God meant when he said, lets make man in our image?  He is referring to the other Babylonian Gods.