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Rpruett on 09 April 2009
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:

Read that other thread again, kid.  You simply fail to read closely I presume.

You contradicted yourself.  (Predictably).

 

Funny.  You claim to have no idea if the losses are recouped, but then try to claim that operating costs are "certainly covered by the micro-transactions".  Very contradicting of you.  How is it you are so certain of this?  You have no basis for this.  I actually feel the opposite and I feel that Home has made Sony little gain in the overall PSN costs.  Why do I believe this?  Because Sony hasn't given any sales data on it except for that one brief "revenue" blurp.

Well considering Home made well over a million micro-transactions within a month of it's release?(With most items costing $.99 or more per item and as high as $6.00)....Yeah I think it's safe to say that a couple of million dollars will cover their operating costs.

And if it wasn't.....Why would Sony continue to expand onto it?  To further their negative equity? 

Does Sony release sales data on ANY online items? Games? Movies? Downloads?  I don't believe so...So why should Home be any different? Of course you could just assume the absolute most negative , worst case scenario that fits your one sided agenda..

 

^^This basically answers nothing and adds nothing to what I said.

You didn't say anything, other than Sony tries to deceive people.  It was a nothing paragraph, filled with your distaste for Sony.  It deserved the absolute nothing response that was given. Make a point next time.  Not the standard company line of 'rah rah rah Sony sucks'. 

Try harder.

 

And this is why there is no hope of any decent conversation with you.  You only bring up other off topic issues instead of respond to my actual arguments.

You don't have arguments.   You have pointless trolling and that's about it...

 

 

 



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Rpruett on 09 April 2009
nightsurge said:

Ok, "many" don't like it and "many" do.  The "many" that don't like it or just don't use it = 80%+ of the PS3 userbase.  I'm sure a lot of that userbase doesn't go online with their PS3's so my number isn't spot on, but if even 50% of PS3 users go online, then of that, only 33% have used Home even once (regular basis number being much smaller) and 66% have yet to even touch it.

 

100% of statistics made up on the spot are factually incorrect.  But keep on preaching.

 



nightsurge on 09 April 2009
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:

Ok, "many" don't like it and "many" do.  The "many" that don't like it or just don't use it = 80%+ of the PS3 userbase.  I'm sure a lot of that userbase doesn't go online with their PS3's so my number isn't spot on, but if even 50% of PS3 users go online, then of that, only 33% have used Home even once (regular basis number being much smaller) and 66% have yet to even touch it.

 

100% of statistics made up on the spot are factually incorrect.  But keep on preaching.

 

Those aren't made up though.  Sorry.  I believe Sony released an article saying 4 million people have tried Home since it's launch a little while back.  That means 17 million have not, which is 80% of 21 million.  The other percentages are based off of these numbers and you should be able to figure that out from there.... I hope.

 



snyperdud on 09 April 2009

Home actually looks....kinda enjoyable.



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nightsurge on 09 April 2009
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:

Read that other thread again, kid.  You simply fail to read closely I presume.

You contradicted yourself.  (Predictably).

Actually I didn't.  You just don't understand the common english sentence and completely misunderstood my posts. (Predictably).

 

Funny.  You claim to have no idea if the losses are recouped, but then try to claim that operating costs are "certainly covered by the micro-transactions".  Very contradicting of you.  How is it you are so certain of this?  You have no basis for this.  I actually feel the opposite and I feel that Home has made Sony little gain in the overall PSN costs.  Why do I believe this?  Because Sony hasn't given any sales data on it except for that one brief "revenue" blurp.

Well considering Home made well over a million micro-transactions within a month of it's release?(With most items costing $.99 or more per item and as high as $6.00)....Yeah I think it's safe to say that a couple of million dollars will cover their operating costs.

Perhaps.  But we can never know unless Sony releases this data.

And if it wasn't.....Why would Sony continue to expand onto it?  To further their negative equity? 

In hopes to eventually create something out of this pointless app.

Does Sony release sales data on ANY online items? Games? Movies? Downloads?  I don't believe so...So why should Home be any different? Of course you could just assume the absolute most negative , worst case scenario that fits your one sided agenda..

Oh I forgot your agenda was SOOOOO evenly balanced among the consoles.  You've never once from what I've seen even shown any proof of owning any of these said systems.  Sure you've claimed it once or twice, but never had anything to back it up.

^^This basically answers nothing and adds nothing to what I said.

You didn't say anything, other than Sony tries to deceive people.  It was a nothing paragraph, filled with your distaste for Sony.  It deserved the absolute nothing response that was given. Make a point next time.  Not the standard company line of 'rah rah rah Sony sucks'. 

Try harder.

I believe I stated Sony likes to use "revenue" instead of profits, where as MS uses profit figures in announcements.  I also explained how giving a "revenue" figure is useless because it can still mean negative profit.  Just because you don't understand and miss every point doesn't mean there isn't one.

 

And this is why there is no hope of any decent conversation with you.  You only bring up other off topic issues instead of respond to my actual arguments.

You don't have arguments.   You have pointless trolling and that's about it...

Actually, I think you fit that bill more so than me.

 

 

 

 

 



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Rpruett on 09 April 2009
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:

Ok, "many" don't like it and "many" do.  The "many" that don't like it or just don't use it = 80%+ of the PS3 userbase.  I'm sure a lot of that userbase doesn't go online with their PS3's so my number isn't spot on, but if even 50% of PS3 users go online, then of that, only 33% have used Home even once (regular basis number being much smaller) and 66% have yet to even touch it.

 

100% of statistics made up on the spot are factually incorrect.  But keep on preaching.

 

Those aren't made up though.  Sorry.  I believe Sony released an article saying 4 million people have tried Home since it's launch a little while back.  That means 17 million have not, which is 80% of 21 million.  The other percentages are based off of these numbers and you should be able to figure that out from there.... I hope.

 

See anything wrong with this contradictory logic?

 



nightsurge on 09 April 2009
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:

Ok, "many" don't like it and "many" do.  The "many" that don't like it or just don't use it = 80%+ of the PS3 userbase.  I'm sure a lot of that userbase doesn't go online with their PS3's so my number isn't spot on, but if even 50% of PS3 users go online, then of that, only 33% have used Home even once (regular basis number being much smaller) and 66% have yet to even touch it.

 

100% of statistics made up on the spot are factually incorrect.  But keep on preaching.

 

Those aren't made up though.  Sorry.  I believe Sony released an article saying 4 million people have tried Home since it's launch a little while back.  That means 17 million have not, which is 80% of 21 million.  The other percentages are based off of these numbers and you should be able to figure that out from there.... I hope.

 

See anything wrong with this contradictory logic?

 

Nope.  Would you like me to find the article?  I guess to please your retardedness I should have left out the "I believe" part because you are the only person who can still try to find something wrong with it.  I am actually quite positive they released the article.  Let me find it so I can laugh at all of your miserable attempts to try and discredit me.

EDIT:  And the laughter begins:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10201103-1.html

From said article:

In an interview with GameDaily, Sony's senior marketing vice president Peter Dille has revealed some stats on PlayStation Home, Sony's online virtual community, which was greeted with a rather lukewarm reception when it launched late last year. Word is 4 million people have come into Home and those who do stick around stick around for 55 minutes on average.

Sony doesn't differentiate between active and idle users (by idle, I mean you've gone in once, checked it out, and never gone back), so it's hard to say how many folks are really hard-core Home dwellers. However, what's clear is that now that it's had an opportunity to mature a bit, the company is making a push to publicize the virtual world that Sony officials have admitted has been a challenge to build and maintain.

The biggest gripe that critics have had about PlayStation Home is that it's long on Sony marketing and short on fun. But Dille says Sony is learning and will "nurture" and "develop" Home.

 



Rpruett on 09 April 2009
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:

Ok, "many" don't like it and "many" do.  The "many" that don't like it or just don't use it = 80%+ of the PS3 userbase.  I'm sure a lot of that userbase doesn't go online with their PS3's so my number isn't spot on, but if even 50% of PS3 users go online, then of that, only 33% have used Home even once (regular basis number being much smaller) and 66% have yet to even touch it.

 

100% of statistics made up on the spot are factually incorrect.  But keep on preaching.

 

Those aren't made up though.  Sorry.  I believe Sony released an article saying 4 million people have tried Home since it's launch a little while back.  That means 17 million have not, which is 80% of 21 million.  The other percentages are based off of these numbers and you should be able to figure that out from there.... I hope.

 

See anything wrong with this contradictory logic?

 

Nope.  Would you like me to find the article?  I guess to please your retardedness I should have left out the "I believe" part because you are the only person who can still try to find something wrong with it.  I am actually quite positive they released the article.  Let me find it so I can laugh at all of your miserable attempts to try and discredit me.

EDIT:  And the laughter begins:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10201103-1.html

From said article:

In an interview with GameDaily, Sony's senior marketing vice president Peter Dille has revealed some stats on PlayStation Home, Sony's online virtual community, which was greeted with a rather lukewarm reception when it launched late last year. Word is 4 million people have come into Home and those who do stick around stick around for 55 minutes on average.

Sony doesn't differentiate between active and idle users (by idle, I mean you've gone in once, checked it out, and never gone back), so it's hard to say how many folks are really hard-core Home dwellers. However, what's clear is that now that it's had an opportunity to mature a bit, the company is making a push to publicize the virtual world that Sony officials have admitted has been a challenge to build and maintain.

The biggest gripe that critics have had about PlayStation Home is that it's long on Sony marketing and short on fun. But Dille says Sony is learning and will "nurture" and "develop" Home.

 

 

Make sure you mean what you say.  Not..... "This is a verifiable 100% fact" and then follow it up with "I think maybe that this could happen".  Certainly you've taken a CS course in logic.  Use it.

Thanks for actually backing something up for once.  It doesn't change your half-baked random numbers that you threw out a few posts back.   Again taking those numbers Sony has had about a million 'new' users log into Home for every month it has been released.



nightsurge on 09 April 2009
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:

Ok, "many" don't like it and "many" do.  The "many" that don't like it or just don't use it = 80%+ of the PS3 userbase.  I'm sure a lot of that userbase doesn't go online with their PS3's so my number isn't spot on, but if even 50% of PS3 users go online, then of that, only 33% have used Home even once (regular basis number being much smaller) and 66% have yet to even touch it.

 

100% of statistics made up on the spot are factually incorrect.  But keep on preaching.

 

Those aren't made up though.  Sorry.  I believe Sony released an article saying 4 million people have tried Home since it's launch a little while back.  That means 17 million have not, which is 80% of 21 million.  The other percentages are based off of these numbers and you should be able to figure that out from there.... I hope.

 

See anything wrong with this contradictory logic?

 

Nope.  Would you like me to find the article?  I guess to please your retardedness I should have left out the "I believe" part because you are the only person who can still try to find something wrong with it.  I am actually quite positive they released the article.  Let me find it so I can laugh at all of your miserable attempts to try and discredit me.

EDIT:  And the laughter begins:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10201103-1.html

From said article:

In an interview with GameDaily, Sony's senior marketing vice president Peter Dille has revealed some stats on PlayStation Home, Sony's online virtual community, which was greeted with a rather lukewarm reception when it launched late last year. Word is 4 million people have come into Home and those who do stick around stick around for 55 minutes on average.

Sony doesn't differentiate between active and idle users (by idle, I mean you've gone in once, checked it out, and never gone back), so it's hard to say how many folks are really hard-core Home dwellers. However, what's clear is that now that it's had an opportunity to mature a bit, the company is making a push to publicize the virtual world that Sony officials have admitted has been a challenge to build and maintain.

The biggest gripe that critics have had about PlayStation Home is that it's long on Sony marketing and short on fun. But Dille says Sony is learning and will "nurture" and "develop" Home.

 

 

Make sure you mean what you say.  Not..... "This is a verifiable 100% fact" and then follow it up with "I think maybe that this could happen".  Certainly you've taken a CS course in logic.  Use it.

Thanks for actually backing something up for once.  It doesn't change your half-baked random numbers that you threw out a few posts back.   Again taking those numbers Sony has had about a million 'new' users log into Home for every month it has been released.

You do relize the phrase "I believe" =/= "I think" right?  "I believe" implies that you are sure of something and have more than reasonable amount of evidence.  "I think" implies that you have some doubt.  I have taken a logic course, but you seem to completely misunderstand all logic anyway, so you would never see me using it as I just did.

It doesn't change your half-baked random numbers that you threw out a few posts back.

Goodness you are so retarded!

The numbers I used a few posts back directly relate to this article!  The only possible "guestimation" I made was the assumption that roughly 50% of PS3 users go online via PSN, which is probably very close to the truth anyway if I were to lookup an article for that figure as well.



Rpruett on 09 April 2009
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
nightsurge said:

Ok, "many" don't like it and "many" do.  The "many" that don't like it or just don't use it = 80%+ of the PS3 userbase.  I'm sure a lot of that userbase doesn't go online with their PS3's so my number isn't spot on, but if even 50% of PS3 users go online, then of that, only 33% have used Home even once (regular basis number being much smaller) and 66% have yet to even touch it.

 

100% of statistics made up on the spot are factually incorrect.  But keep on preaching.

 

Those aren't made up though.  Sorry.  I believe Sony released an article saying 4 million people have tried Home since it's launch a little while back.  That means 17 million have not, which is 80% of 21 million.  The other percentages are based off of these numbers and you should be able to figure that out from there.... I hope.

 

See anything wrong with this contradictory logic?

 

Nope.  Would you like me to find the article?  I guess to please your retardedness I should have left out the "I believe" part because you are the only person who can still try to find something wrong with it.  I am actually quite positive they released the article.  Let me find it so I can laugh at all of your miserable attempts to try and discredit me.

EDIT:  And the laughter begins:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10201103-1.html

From said article:

In an interview with GameDaily, Sony's senior marketing vice president Peter Dille has revealed some stats on PlayStation Home, Sony's online virtual community, which was greeted with a rather lukewarm reception when it launched late last year. Word is 4 million people have come into Home and those who do stick around stick around for 55 minutes on average.

Sony doesn't differentiate between active and idle users (by idle, I mean you've gone in once, checked it out, and never gone back), so it's hard to say how many folks are really hard-core Home dwellers. However, what's clear is that now that it's had an opportunity to mature a bit, the company is making a push to publicize the virtual world that Sony officials have admitted has been a challenge to build and maintain.

The biggest gripe that critics have had about PlayStation Home is that it's long on Sony marketing and short on fun. But Dille says Sony is learning and will "nurture" and "develop" Home.

 

 

Make sure you mean what you say.  Not..... "This is a verifiable 100% fact" and then follow it up with "I think maybe that this could happen".  Certainly you've taken a CS course in logic.  Use it.

Thanks for actually backing something up for once.  It doesn't change your half-baked random numbers that you threw out a few posts back.   Again taking those numbers Sony has had about a million 'new' users log into Home for every month it has been released.

You do relize the phrase "I believe" =/= "I think" right?  "I believe" implies that you are sure of something and have more than reasonable amount of evidence.  "I think" implies that you have some doubt.  I have taken a logic course, but you seem to completely misunderstand all logic anyway, so you would never see me using it as I just did.

It doesn't change your half-baked random numbers that you threw out a few posts back.

Goodness you are so retarded!

The numbers I used a few posts back directly relate to this article!  The only possible "guestimation" I made was the assumption that roughly 50% of PS3 users go online via PSN, which is probably very close to the truth anyway if I were to lookup an article for that figure as well.

I believe still leaves uncertainty...I believe puts it into an opinionated format...not a factual one.  I *think* and I *believe* are essentially the same thing.  If you were 100% sure use better wording next time.

 

You "guesstimated" the whole way through...Thats like me saying like about 75% of Xbox 360s have had failures!!!  It's a "guesstimation".   That was the point.    How does this make me retarded?  You not using correct numbers and just tossing rough estimates and guesstimates into play?

If you know the numbers then say them.  Otherwise,  I don't want to read what you 'guesstimate' figures for  a company (Whom you obviously don't even like.)