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Khuutra said:
NinjaKido said:
What matters to any consumer (we're talking about the core gamer) is the libary availible to them in total , the Wii lacks in this department. The average customer doesn't walk into a shop and say " yes I know there are a toal of XXX Wii games but how many of them were made by Nintnendo ?"
You're right, but your conclusion is wrong.

The Wii's library is exactly why it's outselling the HD twins.

 

Your taking the discussion in a different direction , I believe the Wii libary sells well because of the broader demographic it is able to reach , fulfiling the needs of the core gamer is entirely different.

 



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NinjaKido said:
Khuutra said:
NinjaKido said:
What matters to any consumer (we're talking about the core gamer) is the libary availible to them in total , the Wii lacks in this department. The average customer doesn't walk into a shop and say " yes I know there are a toal of XXX Wii games but how many of them were made by Nintnendo ?"
You're right, but your conclusion is wrong.

The Wii's library is exactly why it's outselling the HD twins.

Your taking the discussion in a different direction , I believe the Wii libary sells well because of the broader demographic it is able to reach , fulfiling the needs of the core gamer is entirely different.

Your language is ambiguous, though. When you use the word "core", do you mean it in the way Nintendo means it? That is to say, people who were gamers before this generation, not including people who had lapsed out of the hobby?



Khuutra said:
NinjaKido said:
Khuutra said:
NinjaKido said:
What matters to any consumer (we're talking about the core gamer) is the libary availible to them in total , the Wii lacks in this department. The average customer doesn't walk into a shop and say " yes I know there are a toal of XXX Wii games but how many of them were made by Nintnendo ?"
You're right, but your conclusion is wrong.

The Wii's library is exactly why it's outselling the HD twins.

Your taking the discussion in a different direction , I believe the Wii libary sells well because of the broader demographic it is able to reach , fulfiling the needs of the core gamer is entirely different.

Your language is ambiguous, though. When you use the word "core", do you mean it in the way Nintendo means it? That is to say, people who were gamers before this generation, not including people who had lapsed out of the hobby?

 

I'd say the core gamer consisted mostly of people who gamed before this generation.

 



NinjaKido said:

I'd say the core gamer consisted mostly of people who gamed before this generation.

Does that include lapsed gamers, and those who just buy Nintendo systems (there are about twenty million of them)?



If they had pushed Mario Kart Wii back to October or so, given it an extra coat of polish to get some of those messier graphical hitches cleaned up, it would have solved the whole problem of perception

 

You are right, though. It looks like a classic schedule if you run it in reverse. This year seems to be following that pattern more. Q2 has got more goodness than Q1 (which exclusively had remakes from Nintendo, aside from Personal Trainer: Math), and hopefully they have some excitement in the pipe for Q3 and Q4.



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It was looking pretty barren in September and November. Maybe No More Heroes should have been released then? It is one of the most highly regarded games on the system from a critical standpoint and probably could have gotten a boost in sales by being released closer to the holidays.

The way this works is the 360 was getting Gears and Fable in November, Nintendo fans would have liked to have had a game they could compare to those, so they rush out in droves to pick up their own big critically appraised hc game during the holidays boosting NMH up to the 2 million in sales it should have had while showing third-parties that there is a market on the Wii for epic hc single-player games with mature theme points.

And Okami probably would have made for a great September release too.  As the real world was getting drabber heading into the Fall, people could be restoring the color to the world of Okami to compensate.  That's been the game's downfall on PS2 and Wii, it was released at the wrong time of year.



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Khuutra said:
NinjaKido said:

I'd say the core gamer consisted mostly of people who gamed before this generation.

Does that include lapsed gamers, and those who just buy Nintendo systems (there are about twenty million of them)?

 

Can you proove that there a people who only buy Nintendo systems ?



NinjaKido said:
Khuutra said:
NinjaKido said:

I'd say the core gamer consisted mostly of people who gamed before this generation.

Does that include lapsed gamers, and those who just buy Nintendo systems (there are about twenty million of them)?

Can you proove that there a people who only buy Nintendo systems ?

That many? No.

That there are? Yeah. Soleron is one of them.



Khuutra said:
NinjaKido said:
Khuutra said:
NinjaKido said:

I'd say the core gamer consisted mostly of people who gamed before this generation.

Does that include lapsed gamers, and those who just buy Nintendo systems (there are about twenty million of them)?

Can you proove that there a people who only buy Nintendo systems ?

That many? No.

That there are? Yeah. Soleron is one of them.

I am another. So there it is, i guess.

 



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Khuutra said:
NinjaKido said:
Khuutra said:
NinjaKido said:

I'd say the core gamer consisted mostly of people who gamed before this generation.

Does that include lapsed gamers, and those who just buy Nintendo systems (there are about twenty million of them)?

Can you proove that there a people who only buy Nintendo systems ?

That many? No.

That there are? Yeah. Soleron is one of them.

 

I'm sure that there are those who buy just Nintendo , but you'd have to try pretty hard to convince me that figure was anywhere near 20 million.


Edit : Are you talking about people who own Wii's and no other system ? or people who historicaly buy just Nintendo ?