Actually as a video player the PSP is better than the touch because of a better screen quality and size... but anyway

I have an iPod touch, and I have basically given up playing any games on it. I used to play a game called Fieldrunners, a tower defence game, but as I was playing it, I just kept on thinking, PixelJunk monsters is just so much better than this. When you have played games like GoW CoO (short, but probably the best game on PSP), the iPod games are just shallow and unsatisfying, the only time I play games on it is playing iShoot with other people. Games are just a distraction on it

As a video player the ipod touch annihilates the PSP. it has at minimum 8 gigs and up to 32 gigs of memory and lasts 12 hrs using full video play back on a single charge. its also like 1/4 the size of a PSP. its thin and truly fits in your pocket.

The iTouch is great for many things, but playing games just isn't one of them.

Nintendo is a games company while Apple is a software/hardware company, ITouch is an just an example of their hardware carrying their software and gaming is simply a small portion of what the ITouch is capable of.

Pre E3 2008; rumors were flying around from every end of the internet claiming that Modus or some form of motion detecting peripheral would be on the way for the HD Twins. The solidified fact that motion controls is what set the Wii apart from other consoles meant that should this hardware be present in its currently indirect competition they would be moving into the Wii’s potential consumer space. The aggressors in this case would be MS and Sony while Nintendo would be the incumbent.

DSi may be so focused on such a down stream audience that Apple may be a little confused. Nintendo is a games company, so it would make sense that the Itouch 2g would be geared towards shielding Apple from any competition as Nintendo is also a hardware company. Nintendo however isn’t using gaming to take the fight to Apple. (That’s right Apple is on the defense, Nintendo is on the offense as far as DSi goes and if they do compete it will be very indirectly.) In all honesty the DSi is just a crappy ITouch that’s a very good DS; that alone should send shivers up Apples spine and Sony sees it as clear as day that their market space is shrinking, again. (Walkman?)

Analogy: Three guys are fighting, Sony is the one who brought the knife, Apple brought the Berretta and Nintendo is the one who brought the harbinger satellite that shoots a beam from above while wearing full body armor.

Jokes aside though, you seeing an Apple product as a games product is just a defensive method, the mythos that Apple products are business oriented or sports oriented is what Apple is trying to keep while pushing the gaming ends.

DSi is pushing into family and that’s where Apple is not.

well i got my iphone recently but...

...it's okay for games. the games are not as exciting as other systems but there are some pretty good gems out there. and for me the point is, i will always have my phone with me, can't say the same about my ds. iphone won't be my go to system for games but it's a pretty good substitute while out and about.

@ dib, i disagree. its Apple who brought the knife. The PSP was a very natural extension of the PS2. Sony has some what ownership of the gamming scene. anything they do in it is their territory. Apple was just an mp3 maker with the I-pod. They extentended that monopoy to attack smartphone makers and the hand held gamming market. Windows mobile, black berry, nokia, Nintendo, Sony were all now in Apples cross hairs. Apples bringing the fight and Nintendo and Microsoft are really the only companies in the world that can successfully fight back. Sony is gone for sure.

PSP is a gaming device trying to be a media hub hybrid of a black berry, Sony placed themselves in Apples cross hairs earlier than they needed to, but I'm not talking about competition.

As far as I can see, disruption wise the DSi is disruptive while the DS is not, that's just based on the apps it comes with. I just wonder how large the the consumer base is for where Nintendo is going and not if they are going because they are definetly moving into Apples space with the DSi.

I may look for those Iwata quotes where he talks about Wii's relation to the PS360 and then when he says similar things about the DSi to the Iseries.

I'm not sure if I'd say Sony is doomed, I actually enjoy their products myself so their has to be something good about that company, and they aren't too expensive. (Granted the PS3 initial cost)

wii/60 are destroying the Playstation stronghold successfully Ipod touch/nds are making the PSP even more irrelevant than it already was, and the I-pod desstroyed the once house hold name of walkman. on top of all that, Sony is in the worst financial shape they have ever been in their companies history. They have little funds to fight back aganst the tech behemoths called Nintendo Microsoft and Apple. no easy task to fight them.

Sony's been around a long time, I don't see them folding anytime soon, despite being in a bit of a rough spot at present. Also, I don't necessarily think that all 3 companies can't play in a similar ball park and still all be very profitable. Just about every other technological industry gets by with sometimes dozens of competitors just fine.

Just about every other technological industry has software that is crossplatform, or crossplatform uses. When the use you have for a technological gadget depends on what brand you buy, things tend to work out very differently. How would it be if you had cellphones that you could only call to the same brand of cellphones? Would you still have multitudes of companies then? Or if your Sony DVD player only played Sony movies.

What happens is usually that a standard gets developed, or companies start developing emulators. The video game industry is kinda different this way. It's one of the few industries in which you have platform specific functionality, no company has monopoly and the market lacks emulators (barring the PS3/360 crossplatform titles).

This means that the industry is broken, sort of. The consumer has to choose the machine based on the media it provides. Perhaps there is room for three big companies, but I don't think there's room for more. It's getting cramped already.

If Apple seriously starts developing a gaming platform of some kind, that will most definitely hurt the other players. iPhone as a gaming platform is more of an accident than a strategic move on Apple's part though. They just happened to hit an out of the park homerun while practicing their swing.