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DirtyP2002 said:
786_ali said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Isn't it strange that people use linux on a lot of phones with no problem at all (and actually often without even knowing they're running linux)? Maybe the biggest problem were crappy distros chosen by netbook manufacturers, a good distro with better preinstalled SW for the most common needs could have satisfied users more.

Linux is everywhere; even in TVs. People should be exposed to Ubuntu, which is as consumer-friendly as Windows but imo a better operating system

 

 ehm Windows is everywhere, too. :) MS could release a brilliant product and give it away for free plus a hug of Steve Ballmer and you still would consider the competition as the better product.

If Linux was superior, the marketshare wouldn't be like it is right now.

I doubt you have ever used Linux.

 



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786_ali said:
DirtyP2002 said:
786_ali said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Isn't it strange that people use linux on a lot of phones with no problem at all (and actually often without even knowing they're running linux)? Maybe the biggest problem were crappy distros chosen by netbook manufacturers, a good distro with better preinstalled SW for the most common needs could have satisfied users more.

Linux is everywhere; even in TVs. People should be exposed to Ubuntu, which is as consumer-friendly as Windows but imo a better operating system

 

 ehm Windows is everywhere, too. :) MS could release a brilliant product and give it away for free plus a hug of Steve Ballmer and you still would consider the competition as the better product.

If Linux was superior, the marketshare wouldn't be like it is right now.

I doubt you have ever used Linux.

 

Of course I have. As a wise man used to say: IT IS EVERYWHERE!

 



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Strategyking92 said:
NinjaKido said:
Strategyking92 said:
NinjaKido said:
Netbooks are meh IMO , screens are too small and content displays at odd resolutions . Low end laptops are similarly priced but outperform netbooks.

I guess it's good for portability but I still think netbooks are meh.

 

But for portability you can just get a cellphone with better or similar specs :P

 

which brings me back to " I still think netbooks are meh" lol.

I know, just helping you put nails into the coffin.

 


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ah ok , cool

My netbook runs Linux and I'm extremely happy with it.

I appreciate most people have not got the time or patience to work with an Open source OS which by its very nature can be quirky but I rather enjoy it.



The most common use of netbooks is e-mail, office and internet. Linux is sufficiently capable and compatible to do all three, and do it faster than XP.

The reason why Linux isn't selling is because laptops with it aren't cheaper. I don't know why this is, since Linux is free and Windows XP costs, but I assume Microsoft has heavily discounted XP to OEMs as long as they obey the hardware restrictions* and market the XP version over the Linux one.

*Microsoft restricts the spec of netbooks. They're not low-spec because they have to be; it's because MS is doing it.

- Can't have flash drives >16GB or HDD >160GB.
- Can't have processors >1GHz.
- Can't have >1GB of memory
- Can't have screen sizes >10.2"

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/14723



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Soleron said:
The most common use of netbooks is e-mail, office and internet. Linux is sufficiently capable and compatible to do all three, and do it faster than XP.

The reason why Linux isn't selling is because laptops with it aren't cheaper. I don't know why this is, since Linux is free and Windows XP costs, but I assume Microsoft has heavily discounted XP to OEMs as long as they obey the hardware restrictions* and market the XP version over the Linux one.

*Microsoft restricts the spec of netbooks. They're not low-spec because they have to be; it's because MS is doing it.

- Can't have flash drives >16GB or HDD >160GB.
- Can't have processors >1GHz.
- Can't have >1GB of memory
- Can't have screen sizes >10.2"

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/14723

 

Shouldn't that be considered a violation of anti trust law if it already isn't ?



NinjaKido said:
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Shouldn't that be considered a violation of anti trust law if it already isn't ?

Yes, but what government would dare challenge one of their biggest sources of tax revenue? Microsoft already does it with normal PCs anyway:

Example: Microsoft offers Windows for $100. They also offer a volume license deal where you pay them $50 per PC sold reagrdless of whether it has Windows or not.

If the OEM declines the volume license, their Windows PCs cost $50 more than their competitors and they go out of business.

If the OEM accepts the deal, every time they sell a Linux PC they are paying $50 for Windows.

So the Linux PCs cost the same as (or because of economies of scale) more than the Windows PCs, despite Linux being free and Windows being $100 retail. It's a clever tactic on Microsoft's part.

 



Hmmmm... i just hate the way windows kills my laptop battery... god thats annoying..

net books r OK if your on the move with limited stuff.. Id rather go on vacation with a net book than a 15"+ Laptop

linux is gr8 though.. i dont know why ppl havent given it a shot..



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arsenicazure said:
Hmmmm... i just hate the way windows kills my laptop battery... god thats annoying..

net books r OK if your on the move with limited stuff.. Id rather go on vacation with a net book than a 15"+ Laptop

linux is gr8 though.. i dont know why ppl havent given it a shot..

Ehem afaik Windows have better battery live than Linux.

And sorry but i given shot to linux multiple times and it always ended in some kind of failure or not being able to do something without huge waste of time (format c: and reinstalling Windows was usually much faster solution :D ) and I'm several levels above your typical computer user.

After all that the only way I'll ever use linux again is inside virtual machine.

 



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Soleron said:
NinjaKido said:
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Shouldn't that be considered a violation of anti trust law if it already isn't ?

Yes, but what government would dare challenge one of their biggest sources of tax revenue? Microsoft already does it with normal PCs anyway:

Example: Microsoft offers Windows for $100. They also offer a volume license deal where you pay them $50 per PC sold reagrdless of whether it has Windows or not.

If the OEM declines the volume license, their Windows PCs cost $50 more than their competitors and they go out of business.

If the OEM accepts the deal, every time they sell a Linux PC they are paying $50 for Windows.

So the Linux PCs cost the same as (or because of economies of scale) more than the Windows PCs, despite Linux being free and Windows being $100 retail. It's a clever tactic on Microsoft's part.

 

The government has already challenged them many times.

So yes.  Yes they would.