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highwaystar101 on 06 April 2009
WessleWoggle said:
No one is thinking about this question hard enough.

IT says a permanent settlement. None of us are going to live long enough to see a permanent settlement on mars. No human is going to live long enough to see a permanent settlement on mars. Mars won't be around forever. Even if we do make a long lasting settlement, it will be destroyed one day.

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I think you are looking into it to much. I think by permanant settlement they mean people staying indefinately.

 



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WessleWoggle on 06 April 2009
highwaystar101 said:
WessleWoggle said:
No one is thinking about this question hard enough.

IT says a permanent settlement. None of us are going to live long enough to see a permanent settlement on mars. No human is going to live long enough to see a permanent settlement on mars. Mars won't be around forever. Even if we do make a long lasting settlement, it will be destroyed one day.

pwned

I think you are looking into it to much. I think by permanant settlement they mean people staying indefinately.

 

 

 

I know. :P But on the basis of unbiased semantics the answer is no, but within the context of this thread it's obvious that permanent means one we intend to be permanent.



SamuelRSmith on 06 April 2009
highwaystar101 said:
If someone discovered that half of Mars was covered in gold and diamonds you could guarantee funding would increase exponentially and we would be there in a few years.

Unfortunately that is not the case.

 

You'd then see the value of gold and diamonds hit the floor, along with the carcusses of all the people who had invested their money into them.



Tyrannical on 07 April 2009
WessleWoggle said:
No one is thinking about this question hard enough.

IT says a permanent settlement. None of us are going to live long enough to see a permanent settlement on mars. No human is going to live long enough to see a permanent settlement on mars. Mars won't be around forever. Even if we do make a long lasting settlement, it will be destroyed one day.

pwned

 

No wonder you wanted all your posts deleted.



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megaman79 on 07 April 2009

Minerals, tons of goddamned minerals would pay for it. Thats why there are interspace mining colonies in every scifi movie.

Its def. possible, even certain, but not likely by the US. China, and India to a lesser extent, will make space travel much more competitive in the next 30 yrs.



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TheRealMafoo on 07 April 2009
megaman79 said:
Minerals, tons of goddamned minerals would pay for it. Thats why there are interspace mining colonies in every scifi movie.

Its def. possible, even certain, but not likely by the US. China, and India to a lesser extent, will make space travel much more competitive in the next 30 yrs.

 

We would need a space lift first. One on Mars, and one on Earth. They are coming, but intill we can get things into space cheep, it's pointless to think about.



mrstickball on 07 April 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
megaman79 said:
Minerals, tons of goddamned minerals would pay for it. Thats why there are interspace mining colonies in every scifi movie.

Its def. possible, even certain, but not likely by the US. China, and India to a lesser extent, will make space travel much more competitive in the next 30 yrs.

 

We would need a space lift first. One on Mars, and one on Earth. They are coming, but intill we can get things into space cheep, it's pointless to think about.

A big part of me wishes that we'd reign in our federal spending, and use the saved money to build a space lift.

Economic stimulus package? How about a $500,000,000 space lift that cuts costs of space travel by 90%?

 



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supermario128 on 07 April 2009

I think we will. Maybe not some of the older members.




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highwaystar101 on 07 April 2009
mrstickball said:
TheRealMafoo said:
megaman79 said:
Minerals, tons of goddamned minerals would pay for it. Thats why there are interspace mining colonies in every scifi movie.

Its def. possible, even certain, but not likely by the US. China, and India to a lesser extent, will make space travel much more competitive in the next 30 yrs.

 

We would need a space lift first. One on Mars, and one on Earth. They are coming, but intill we can get things into space cheep, it's pointless to think about.

A big part of me wishes that we'd reign in our federal spending, and use the saved money to build a space lift.

Economic stimulus package? How about a $500,000,000 space lift that cuts costs of space travel by 90%?

 

A cabron fibre tube has been developed for the space lift. It was created in labs some time last month and I read about it in a science journal the other day. They can produce one gram worth of tube every day with current production techniques, the one gram stretches 26 Kms theoritically. The basic idea is to put millions of these tubes into na cable and it would be strong enough to stretch into space and not bend.

Doubt this method will work though.

 



mrstickball on 07 April 2009

There are other materials that could be used in a space elevator. Immediately after writing my little speel on space elevator funding, I read up on the feasibility of an elevator.

Carbon fiber nanotubes are a great solution. However, using industrial-grade diamonds may also produce a similar result as the CF nanotubes, but are cheaper and more prolific in our current economy. Supposedly, $500,000,000 worth of said diamonds would be enough to extend an elevator 5,000mi into space.



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