@Draik. Did you even read the link I posted? Or in typical Euro fasion you pretended it didnt exist and entered that "lecturish" mode I mentioned before? And dont bring up that "scar of the worlds consience" speech. It was made by some British dude and Britain by far has the worlds most fucked up "human rights record" ever, so I don't take anything they say seriously. Tibet doesnt even come close. So according to you Jews should ignore what the Nazis did and take responsibility for it? Afterall the Jews killed themselves right?

^ Read this http://blogcritics.org/archives/2009/03/20/153803.php
That pretty much sums up my feelings.

And I read your link.

Subiya Cryolite, rre you joking?? Many countries in the world look up to European values and wellfare.

And China! China ain't an example of a good role-model. China don't have human rites, no democracy, corrupt legal system and authorities, death penalty, cencorship, religious oppression, occupation of Tibet, they bully Taiwan, they treat animals and handicapped badly, child and slave labour, they support other dictators and rogue states, they have bad control over chemicals and no secure food and products, they violate near extinct species, they pollute the environment, they are a pain in the UN security council with their constant blocking by use of veto.

If Africa chooses the path of China it will lead to more misery for his people.

Europe isnt nice. And no one outside Europe looks up to it. People only go for employment. But everything else, the weather, its history, the way it treats others, its HYPOCRACY (China has a better human rights record than Europe smartass, they didnt colonise, they didnt enslave, they didnt murder natives, they didnt start TWO world wars etc etc) sucks. People look up to Europe huh? lol, thats a good one. How can you read about what Europe has done in the world and say its nice. Thats like saying Nazis are good people.

U are talking about cruel stuff Europe did until one hundred years ago. We changed since then. For the last 50 years Europe is the center of good morals in the world and a hopeful inspiration to humanity.

This has to be a joke.

If we look at the past then we can argue that Europe has done more for the world than any other continent. Not everything was pretty, but the good outweights the bad by a lot.

Now what has Africa ever done?

@Draik, thats a good point and fantastic read. But lets be realistic. Any country that genuinely tries to sort out itself, gain technology, or controll its destiny without running to the west for aid, APPROVAL or advice is called a...wait for it...ROUGE STATE. Seriously, Iran, Bolivia, Cuba, Venezuella heck even Zimbabwe have done what that dude said and look how theyre portrayed? Im serious now? Arent those countries trying to solve their own problems, use their resources for their own benefit? Um yeah, and yet theyre portrayed as evil? why? Hypocracy. Despite all the human rights, democracy and free trade talk fact is Europe and the powers that be want continued influence and control, and dont want Spheres of influence in other parts of the globe. This guy presents a good article on what Africa should do to enpower itself (pride, independence, culture etc) http://www.africawithin.com/asante/africangods.html but if any country did half of what he said theyld be branded extremists, terrorists, rouge etc.

Morals? Dont mention Europe and morals in the same sentence again. Incest isnt morals, genocide isnt morals, hypocracy isnt morals, pillaging isnt morals, polluting isnt morals, racism isnt morals, imperialism isnt morals, sabotage isnt morals, SWISS BANKING isnt morals, holding others down isnt morals. Europe has done most good for the world really? Modern mathematics and the abascus was invented by the Arabs. The Four great inventions (compass, colliagraphy and two things I cant remember) were from China. HUMAN BEINGS and the first university in Timbuktu and the first mega civilization Egypt and written language were from Africa. The Greeks ackgnowledge that their knowledge came from Egypt (And look up the Greeks physical descriptions of Egyptians) .Agriculture started in the middle east. Europe pioneered technology (at the expense of others) but the basics necessary for survival were perfected by Arabs, Africans and Asians. Hence if it werent for the others, Arabs in particular, Europe wouldnt be much.

Europe's morals are still higher than USA's, a country with some of the most appalling morals in the world. The United States decline is a foregone conclusion, nothing lasts forever. The Roman Empire, The British Empire, they went, The USA too will go down and whoever takes USA's place will also decline at some point in the future. Best thing for america to do is to stop pissing off the whole world and focus upon fixing its own problems. Look at the states of your healthcare/education systems, they could be improved dramatically if your politicians weren't so concerned about the non-threat of iran/north korea etc. I bet China and India will be next two world superpowers and i reckon they will be succeeded by african/south american nations.

^^What he said. If America spent its money on its people rather than stupid wars and various unneccessary stuff (*cough* Israel *cough*) its citizens would be living the life. It sucks how America is sooo fucking rich and yet it seems nothing reaches the people below. From what I see average Japanese person leaves a cumfier life than the average American? Why? Because Japan minds its own biz and isnt wasteful.