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Reasonable on 06 April 2009
markers said:
if microsoft really wanted to kill xp they would have already

 

Sure, that's why they had to backtrack on removing pre-installed XP, etc.

Vista did not go well and despite MS clearly wanting to kill XP they couldn't - both corporate and consumer purchasers wouldn't let them.

At the end of the day it was risk a huge backlash or cave in and let XP continue for a lot longer than they wanted as a lead offering - and for all their size and monopoly they had to cave in.

Now they are hoping to let XP quietly fade, let the mess of Vista fade and looking to 7 (or maybe even 8) to allow them to kill XP.

 



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Alby_da_Wolf on 06 April 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:
They just renewed the downgrade to xp program for another year.

Vista has been a massive clusterfuck for microsoft.

I hear they've learned tho, as it appears win7 is rather nice. If they were smart they'd market it as XP 2.0

Ballmer could hurl one of his mighty chairs at you for this!  

 



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Zkuq on 06 April 2009

No, unless they add better support for older games and programs (mainly DOS but also older Windows programs). Well, that's my case at least; I'm not going to switch anytime soon, even with such good performance (if it really is that good in the end).

That said, Windows 7 might (unfortunately) be a good choice for the most.



Zlejedi on 06 April 2009
Deneidez said:
Gilgamesh said:

I'ts pretty obvious that Vista was a failure and many still have Windows XP after being out for 8 years now. I still own XP and I think it's the best, I've tried Vista and I just didn't like it to much. So Microsoft wants to try to end XP with W7, it looks promising and there is a lot of improvements over Vista but it's really not that much different, it's more of a Vista .5.

So the question is do you think that Windows 7 will be the new Windows XP?

Nope, my experiences with vista and with windows 7 have been quite similar. Its almost like windows 7 is new service pack for vista. If people see it like this, they won't use it.

thetonestarr:

It doesn't address all the problems that vista has. Still it won't run older programs. Even those that native work in XP. And do you really buy all that marketing speech? :D

Well Windows 7 being released as stand alone system is probably only marketing to get rid of hated brand.

I don't see any serious diffrences in how it operates and FACT you can run hardware with Vista drivers on it further proves it's just a new Service pack.

 



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GamingChartzFTW on 06 April 2009


Don't worry about Windows 7. Ballmer know what to do!  :/



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thetonestarr on 06 April 2009
Staude said:
thetonestarr said:
Just because Win7 doesn't look that much different than Vista doesn't mean it doesn't work differently.

Windows '98 looked almost exactly like Win '95 but it worked incredibly differently. And Win2k was the same way. WinXP was the first version since '95 to change the appearance drastically.

Win7 looks a lot like Vista, but it works VERY differently. It addresses all the problems that Vista had, and it does it rather well. It has a plethora of performance improvements over even XP, and it offers a variety of advantages too, like better security, more options, greater compatibility with more powerful systems, etc.

It won't stop everybody from using XP, but then, XP and Vista haven't stopped people from using Win2k (yes, many still use 2k, particularly since it's even faster than XP). It will, however, overtake XP as the "dominant 'new system' OS".

 

who the hell uses 2k over 98second edition ? windows 2k is pretty bad.

Are you serious? Besides the fact that '98 is still DOS-based, and Win2k is an NT-based OS, there are a huuuge mess of benefits (although the majority are the fact that 98 is obsolete in every single way, mainly due to its different filesystem and being DOS-based).

Win2k is compatible with nearly everything that's out there (being part of the NT family), and upgrading all the way through SP4 cleans up every complaint anybody had with it initially. 2k was only bad when it very, very first came out, and even then, it was mostly because people were unfamiliar with using the NT family.

 



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averyblund on 06 April 2009

Well so far the betas have been good and Win7 is looking like a nice upgrade. But if anybody remembers the Vista/XP betas they were better than the release version in many ways as well. With me I generally wait for SP1. To me Win7 comes off like what Vista SP1 should have been. It still isn't great, and doesn't live up to the feature set MS promised from even Vista, but it seems to be a big step forward.

Will it kill XP? For consumers its likely. But for biz XP just works better and a variety of HW and legacy apps. Much of the eye candy which is a boon for consumers is a bane for corporations.



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averyblund on 06 April 2009
thetonestarr said:
Staude said:
thetonestarr said:
Just because Win7 doesn't look that much different than Vista doesn't mean it doesn't work differently.

Windows '98 looked almost exactly like Win '95 but it worked incredibly differently. And Win2k was the same way. WinXP was the first version since '95 to change the appearance drastically.

Win7 looks a lot like Vista, but it works VERY differently. It addresses all the problems that Vista had, and it does it rather well. It has a plethora of performance improvements over even XP, and it offers a variety of advantages too, like better security, more options, greater compatibility with more powerful systems, etc.

It won't stop everybody from using XP, but then, XP and Vista haven't stopped people from using Win2k (yes, many still use 2k, particularly since it's even faster than XP). It will, however, overtake XP as the "dominant 'new system' OS".

 

who the hell uses 2k over 98second edition ? windows 2k is pretty bad.

Are you serious? Besides the fact that '98 is still DOS-based, and Win2k is an NT-based OS, there are a huuuge mess of benefits (although the majority are the fact that 98 is obsolete in every single way, mainly due to its different filesystem and being DOS-based).

Win2k is compatible with nearly everything that's out there (being part of the NT family), and upgrading all the way through SP4 cleans up every complaint anybody had with it initially. 2k was only bad when it very, very first came out, and even then, it was mostly because people were unfamiliar with using the NT family.

 

I'm hoping he meant Windows ME. God that release was a piece of shit.

 



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perpride on 06 April 2009

The real question here is: Will Windows 7 finally kill Windows 2000?



thetonestarr on 06 April 2009
averyblund said:
thetonestarr said:
Staude said:
thetonestarr said:
Just because Win7 doesn't look that much different than Vista doesn't mean it doesn't work differently.

Windows '98 looked almost exactly like Win '95 but it worked incredibly differently. And Win2k was the same way. WinXP was the first version since '95 to change the appearance drastically.

Win7 looks a lot like Vista, but it works VERY differently. It addresses all the problems that Vista had, and it does it rather well. It has a plethora of performance improvements over even XP, and it offers a variety of advantages too, like better security, more options, greater compatibility with more powerful systems, etc.

It won't stop everybody from using XP, but then, XP and Vista haven't stopped people from using Win2k (yes, many still use 2k, particularly since it's even faster than XP). It will, however, overtake XP as the "dominant 'new system' OS".

 

who the hell uses 2k over 98second edition ? windows 2k is pretty bad.

Are you serious? Besides the fact that '98 is still DOS-based, and Win2k is an NT-based OS, there are a huuuge mess of benefits (although the majority are the fact that 98 is obsolete in every single way, mainly due to its different filesystem and being DOS-based).

Win2k is compatible with nearly everything that's out there (being part of the NT family), and upgrading all the way through SP4 cleans up every complaint anybody had with it initially. 2k was only bad when it very, very first came out, and even then, it was mostly because people were unfamiliar with using the NT family.

 

I'm hoping he meant Windows ME. God that release was a piece of shit.

 

Many people do get ME confused with 2k. That's... an acceptable mistake. Proves you actually don't know really what you're talking about, but it shows that you are somewhat familiar with what's going on.

 

And yes, ME was absolutely horrible. Bugs everywhere, didn't include usable DOS even though it was still based on DOS architecture (still had a DOS prompt at least, but that's basically useless now), had more security leaks in it than Ford's Theatre in the 1860s, etc.

 



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