.jayderyu said: I think BTFeather is putting too much faith that the games in question will more of a difference than the previous games. Yes sales will increase, but no more than what Haze, Heavenly Sword, KZ2 have done. So no FF14 and GT will not magicly double the numbers. In the end when it's done developers will "continue" on their current HD plans.

Yeah right not. The only game in that list whose sales should even be mentioned in the same breath as Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo is Killzoe 2 and even though it will pass 2.5 million in the West it just doesn't hold a candle to the numbers that XIII and GT5 will do. Sales for Gran Turismo 4 and FFXII Final Fantasy X (3.02 Million sales Japan, 2.74 Million sales US, 2.19 Million sales Others = 7.95 Million sales total.) Final Fantasy XII (2.42 Million sales Japan, 1.84 Million sales US, 0.84 Million sales Others = 5.10 Million sales total.) Gran Turismo 4 (1.16 Million sales Japan, 2.76 Million sales US, 5.73 Million sales Others = 9.65 Million sales total.)

saicho said: RolStoppable said: It's absolutely reasonable to suggest that about one million PS3s will be sold in the release week of each game (GT5, FF XIII, FF Vs. XIII). I don't see what the problem is. I agree but the problem is so far none of the three games listed has a confirmed release date. So we will never know exactly when it would happen. Could be the end of this year, next year or year 2016.

 

      Gran Turismo 5 will be out in either November or December 2009 and Final Fantasy XIII PS3 will be released on Christmas Day in Japan which is the one year anniversary of White Knight Chronicles release there.

seece said: If MGS4 can only bump the PS3 to 77k how do you expect GT5 do do anything substantial ...? and before you say MGS is nothing in Japan, the previous MGS games topped around 800k there ... not far off the 1 million for GT you mentioned. As for FF ... all the people that buy VS will buy the other one ... or whichever one is out first ... it wont be 1.5M million for 13 then another 1.5M for VS

 

Judging from the sales of FFX and FFXII, FFXIII should sale far more than 1.5 million copies, so if both FF Versus XIII and XIII only do 3 million each and only sell to to same people, that's still at least 1.5 million to add to the PS3's number plus 500,000 for GT5, so that still puts the PS3 at  a 5:1 ratio against the 360 in Japan.  Which might not be 7:1 but that is still a pretty bad figure against the 360 considering it probably won't get a top notch Japanese exclusive for the rest of the gen following that.  And, as a matter of fact, we're seeing at a 3:1 ratio for the PS3 in Japan many of the 360's exclusives are no longer 360 exclusives see Vesperia and NG II both announced ad headed to the PS3 in the past week. 

 

seece said: If MGS4 can only bump the PS3 to 77k how do you expect GT5 do do anything substantial ...? and before you say MGS is nothing in Japan, the previous MGS games topped around 800k there ... not far off the 1 million for GT you mentioned. As for FF ... all the people that buy VS will buy the other one ... or whichever one is out first ... it wont be 1.5M million for 13 then another 1.5M for VS

 

D@mn you killed this awesome thread...

Why would japanese developers choose 360 exclusivity with 600k Xbox 600 sold vs. 2.4m PS3s sold?

Yet they did. It surprises me how people use X360's weak perfomance in the region as a proof that PS3 is soon to become the console of choice for japanese devs and especially jRPG devs.

  Like somehow 360 doing terrible in the region changes the fact that PS3 is doing terrible there too.

FJ-Warez said: seece said: If MGS4 can only bump the PS3 to 77k how do you expect GT5 do do anything substantial ...? and before you say MGS is nothing in Japan, the previous MGS games topped around 800k there ... not far off the 1 million for GT you mentioned. As for FF ... all the people that buy VS will buy the other one ... or whichever one is out first ... it wont be 1.5M million for 13 then another 1.5M for VS   D@mn you killed this awesome thread...

 

 only if people choose to ignore the facts that I've already produced which are going to come back and bite the 360's expansion in Japan in the bum later this year.

BTFeather55 said: FJ-Warez said: D@mn you killed this awesome thread...    only if people choose to ignore the facts that I've already produced which are going to come back and bite the 360's expansion in Japan in the bum later this year.

 

Those "facts" are made up of pure speculation due to the succes of a couple last gen games, if you look for actual data, you can`t back up a similar bump of 7:1, 6:1 or 5:1... the games are selling and selling good, but the hardware doesn't follow a similar path...

 

people still calling 360 jrpg king? laughable

ps3 sold at about 4.5 times faster than 360.

360 - 1million in about 3 years.(less than 333k a year)

ps3 3 million in about 2.(less than 1.5 million a year)

its perfectly reasonable to believe ps3 will increase the rate of growth over the 360.

look at this week week. 3600 to 19k. ps3 beats 360 by 5 times.

check t3h numbers please