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Squilliam on 02 April 2009

Killzone 2 has a lot of low resolution textures spruced up with specular/normal maps. If you can see past some of the technical wizardry the illusion doesn't hold up so well.



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SpartanFX on 02 April 2009
NNN2004 said:
SpartanFX said:
NNN2004 said:
Staude said:
selnor said:
^ The thing that springs to mind is that the 360 hasnt got any games from good developers that have gone for realistic graphics.

Big games like Halo 3, Gears 2, Mass Effect all went for art direction. KZ2 currently wins at the moment, but I bet my bottom dollar the 360 will have a couple of games that beat it's graphics this year. Mainly Alan Wake and Forza 3. Also I believe Risen will to.

Personally KZ2 is the ONLY game on PS3 that is better than 360 games. Gears 2 for me was and still has the best wow moment ever for graphics.

Mass Effect 2 will undoubtly look astonishing also. CRYEngine 3 games for 360 will also beat KZ2. But then PS3 will continue to improve as well. By the end of the gen both consoles will not outshine the other.

Like i said before. Cryengine has some good things and some bad things about it. Particular particle effects and Lightning. I don't believe what they've shown us so far outranks killzone 2.

 

Models and textures beat the hell out of it though..

 

Personally i've had the most wow moments in Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4. I'm not saying that as a "sony fan" response but that's how it is for me. For instance, there is no game with such an advanced animation system as uncharted.. and it has these beautiful visuals throughout with No loads in the game at all! Some of the best games ever have been released this gen and it only looks like it's getting better.

The thing the unreal engine excels at is mapping. The models aren't very advanced but because of bumps, specular, normals etc.. they manage to make some pretty impressive stuff..

Personally I'm not all for unreal engine games because they tend to have a look that crosses over. I don't mind them, but they don't really give me as much satisfaction visually as some propriatory engines. That's just me though. I can see how other people would think differently.

 

But really where the difference lies in the ps3 and the 360, is a place where you'll only minimally be able to tell visually. I do find it impressive that sony has managed to overtake the 360 visually even though it was launched much later, but if you look at the specs, the differences in games will be things such as physics, lightning,  AI.. stuff like that. Mostly things that the processor does.

 

 

killzone 2 have a good effects but dont forget that its have a low textures also.

 

 

lol,,,no it doesn't

this is an old photo to hype the game but if you take a photo from the real game you will see the low textures clearly ... can you post a photo from your tv ?

 

 

lol,,the final game looks better than this.this was from the old preview built.

 

yes i can take a photo of the game from my TV.(i ll pm it to you tomorrow,casue i m goin to bed now)



 

 

 

SpartanFX on 02 April 2009
Squilliam said:
Killzone 2 has a lot of low resolution textures spruced up with specular/normal maps. If you can see past some of the technical wizardry the illusion doesn't hold up so well.

 

whatever that makes you feel better ;)

it is the best looking console game by far and nothing can change that fact.



 

 

 

Zkuq on 02 April 2009

An interesting review with some interesting points.

And about that Killzone 2 thing... He seems to be speaking in general, not about Killzone 2 only. I'm sure KZ2 could be done on the 360 as well, but it would have to be changed quite a bit. Not necessarily worse, only different. It just seems to be optimized for the PS3 in a way that would be hard to do on the 360 right now.

Pretty funny how they've written OnLive in two different ways and both are wrong.



Squilliam on 02 April 2009

If I wanted true computational performance in my gaming, why turn TO the PS3? I don't get this paradox. On the one hand its like "OMG ITZ SO GORGEOUS" and on the other hand its kinda lame and overblown.

I think my new policy is to tell fanboys who go gaga over this kind of overblowm OMG factor to buy a decent PC.



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Squilliam on 02 April 2009
SpartanFX said:
Squilliam said:
Killzone 2 has a lot of low resolution textures spruced up with specular/normal maps. If you can see past some of the technical wizardry the illusion doesn't hold up so well.

 

whatever that makes you feel better ;)

it is the best looking console game by far and nothing can change that fact.

Actually Braid is, since the water colour effects are rendered flawlessly. Its difficult to make a better braid, but the next better looking "Killzone 2" is right around the corner.

 



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papflesje on 02 April 2009

So Squillie has become a PC-advocate now? :)

You should stick with a persona longer than this, squillie, it's getting old :p



SpartanFX on 02 April 2009
papflesje said:
So Squillie has become a PC-advocate now? :)

You should stick with a persona longer than this, squillie, it's getting old :p

 

he is just looking for ways to dodge the fact that PS3 exclusive games are generally better looking than X360. :p

it's always :uncharted,MGS4,KZ2,Heavenly Sword,GT5:P,wipeout HD,...Vs Gears (as it is one of  the few games on 360 that really is competing)



 

 

 

Squilliam on 02 April 2009
papflesje said:
So Squillie has become a PC-advocate now? :)

You should stick with a persona longer than this, squillie, it's getting old :p

The current crop of PC fanboys are ... and I wanted to correct the balance.

 

 



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Squilliam on 02 April 2009
SpartanFX said:
papflesje said:
So Squillie has become a PC-advocate now? :)

You should stick with a persona longer than this, squillie, it's getting old :p

 

he is just looking for ways to dodge the fact that PS3 exclusive games are generally better looking than X360. :p

it's always :uncharted,MGS4,KZ2,Heavenly Sword,GT5:P,wipeout HD,...Vs Gears (as it is one of  the few games on 360 that really is competing)
You're trying to dodge the fact that the differences really don't matter in an objective sense. :p

 



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