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crumas2 on 02 April 2009
SpartanFX said:
My friend's neighbor told me that crysis on ultra high can easily be done on PS3 by changing the programing a little bit.

see i can make up foolish claims without backing it up just like this.X360 is getting close to 4 years old and not a single game comes close to what PS3 did when it was 2 years and 2 months old(or a year and 9 months in Europe's case)

 

I guess it depends on what you mean when you say "gets close".  It's almost as if people were somehow measuring all the elements of the graphics with some sort of objective yardsticks.  Higher native resolution sounds like it would be an easy one, but it can't be considered independantly from how many textures are being used, how complex they are, what kind of lighting is being used, etc.

In the end, I'm sure I could show KZ2 and Gears 2 on the same HDTVs side by side, and the average gamer wouldn't even have a clue that one is supposed to have "better" graphics than the other... it would likely depend on the viewer, with two significant camps saying they preferred one other the other for fairly subjective reasons.

This is like arguing that Da Vinci was a better painter than Picasso, or vice versa.



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crumas2 on 02 April 2009
SpartanFX said:
My friend's neighbor told me that crysis on ultra high can easily be done on PS3 by changing the programing a little bit.

see i can make up foolish claims without backing it up just like this.X360 is getting close to 4 years old and not a single game comes close to what PS3 did when it was 2 years and 2 months old(or a year and 9 months in Europe's case)

 

I guess it depends on what you mean when you say "gets close".  It's almost as if people were somehow measuring all the elements of the graphics with some sort of objective yardsticks.  Higher native resolution sounds like it would be an easy one, but it can't be considered independantly from how many textures are being used, how complex they are, what kind of lighting is being used, etc.

In the end, I'm sure I could show KZ2 and Gears 2 on the same HDTVs side by side, and the average gamer wouldn't even have a clue that one is supposed to have "better" graphics than the other... it would likely depend on the viewer, with two significant camps saying they preferred one other the other for fairly subjective reasons.

This is like arguing that Da Vinci was a better painter than Picasso, or vice versa.



Shadowblind on 02 April 2009
786_ali said:
Shadowblind said:

Lol. Anyone who thinks that either the 360 or PS3 won't easily surpass Killzone 2 in graphics in the future is either kidding...or an idiot.

 

The PS3 can surpass KZ2's gfx, it already has with Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain. However, I have my doubts about the 360. imo it has reached its peak, gfx wise, with GeOW 2 and perhaps Alan Wake.

 

Shadowblind said:

Lol. Anyone who thinks that either the 360 or PS3 won't easily surpass Killzone 2 in graphics in the future is either kidding...or an idiot.



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Procrastinato on 02 April 2009

If KZ2 could be done on the 360, why hasn't it been, given that the 360s tools are supposedly better, and its been out for a year longer?

Is it because this awesome ex-360 developer guy didn't work on any of those titles?  Christian Allen can make KZ2 happen on the 360, even though he's never worked with the PS3?

He should start his own dev studio of ultra 360 awesomeness!  Better yet, he should bring that action to the Wii!



 

phinch1 on 02 April 2009

xbox has probably reached near enough its max now, where as the ps3's cell is just starting to blossom. I couldn't have explain that any gayer but its true lol , they say Alan wake is going to be good graphics, it might well be but haven't all the screen shots so far been for PC? Not xbox



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crumas2 on 02 April 2009
Procrastinato said:

If KZ2 could be done on the 360, why hasn't it been, given that the 360s tools are supposedly better, and its been out for a year longer?

Is it because this awesome ex-360 developer guy didn't work on any of those titles?  Christian Allen can make KZ2 happen on the 360, even though he's never worked with the PS3?

He should start his own dev studio of ultra 360 awesomeness!  Better yet, he should bring that action to the Wii!

 

KZ2 is a PS3 exclusive.  We could also ask why Gears of War hasn't been ported to the PS3.



blackstar on 02 April 2009
786_ali said:
Shadowblind said:

Lol. Anyone who thinks that either the 360 or PS3 won't easily surpass Killzone 2 in graphics in the future is either kidding...or an idiot.

 

The PS3 can surpass KZ2's gfx, it already has with Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain. However, I have my doubts about the 360. imo it has reached its peak, gfx wise, with GeOW 2 and perhaps Alan Wake.

 

the bolded part is just like "KZ2 can be done on 360", u guys need to stop talking with no evidence



TheTruthProphet on 02 April 2009

why are you fools still arguing about graphics?

xbox had better graphics than ps2 and look where it ended up.

So stfu already. People really don't give a shit about graphics for the most part.

History is proof of that



Jo21 on 02 April 2009

LSquilliam said:
786_ali said:
The guy doesn't know anything about the ps3! He says so himself. So I'd take everything he says with a bucket of salt. If KZ2 can be done on the 360 lets see the 360 do something as good or better, because games with better graphics are coming e.g Uncharted 2, GT5, Heavy Rain etc.

Maximum yawn... So what? If I wanted graphics I would play on my PC. I do have a gaming PC attached to the same TV as my PS3 so its definately doable.

 

 

LOL "graphics doesn't matter"

i think u would have more fun with a wii than 360 then, its a new experience :P

 

 i am sure killzone 2 could be done in the 360 but some things would be changed. like 16 players, physics tonned down a bit. 5.1 sound isntead of 7.1

deffered rendering its actually very light, but it require CPU

 



Rpruett on 02 April 2009
Garnett said:
Staude said:
Garnett said:
Staude said:
Garnett said:
Sardauk said:

Bring Killzone 2 on the 360 then

better controllers,better online, better chat and better mics

 

 

 

Yea I can see why you'd want that..  not.

 

Actually,i didnt mind KZ2,its just the 3 second delay and the mass hype which killed it for me.

 

what delay ? also the game delivered on all fronts and surpassed atleast my expectations.

Of course it did,i can see why.

 

If you bought the game on the first day in the states you would of seen it had a horrible delay when turning,also the fact it takes a hole clip to kill someone,but i like the engine,i think all future FPS should be built like that.

 

It's a shame KZ2 doesn't include auto-aim like COD4.  Then you could be good like the rest of us, too!   Damn GG!