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Khuutra said:
BTFeather55 said:

I fully expect that towards the end of the gen the PS3 will actually be making a move towards the Wii.

What could possibly make you think that?

 

While I don't believe it will catch the Wii or even make much of a move towards the Wii.   I do think the PS3 has a good possibility of taking 2nd place (end game) this generation.  Selling at a higher clip/time on the market at a higher price.  A vast majority of Japanese HD console upgrades will go in drastically in favor of the PS3.   The PS3 will almost certainly win in "Others".   

The real hurdle is the US.  (Which IMO is far more based on pricing then other territories).   I think as the price drops on the PS3 the US sales will pick up rapidly.  (Maybe not high enough to ever 'catch' the 360 in the US).  But enough that the combined effect of higher JPN numbers / higher others numbers will make the difference.



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BTFeather55 said:

I agree. Where I differ is that I think PS3 will do this much quicker than expected due to more exclusive games coming to it from Japan which is what japanese publishers will make happen after the PS3 sprints up to 7 million consoles sold in Japan after the release of FF Versus XIII while the 360 won't even have 2 million units sold there by that time. Then even if the 360 is still outselling the PS3 in the US even after the mass support it will be getting from the Japanese development community, all of these Japanese games will still allow the PS3 to really take off and trounce the 360 in Others.

I fully expect that towards the end of the gen the PS3 will actually be making a move towards the Wii.

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Rpruett said:

While I don't believe it will catch the Wii or even make much of a move towards the Wii.   I do think the PS3 has a good possibility of taking 2nd place (end game) this generation.  Selling at a higher clip/time on the market at a higher price.  A vast majority of Japanese HD console upgrades will go in drastically in favor of the PS3.   The PS3 will almost certainly win in "Others".   

The real hurdle is the US.  (Which IMO is far more based on pricing then other territories).   I think as the price drops on the PS3 the US sales will pick up rapidly.  (Maybe not high enough to ever 'catch' the 360 in the US).  But enough that the combined effect of higher JPN numbers / higher others numbers will make the difference.

There are a lot of factors that will affect the 360/PS3 race, but I was only asking about how he thinks the PS3 is goign to be making a move on the Wii. The rest of it is immaterial.



Khuutra said:
BTFeather55 said:

I fully expect that towards the end of the gen the PS3 will actually be making a move towards the Wii.

What could possibly make you think that?

 

 He's lost his mind... And By 2016 the 360 would have been around for almost 11 years... I don't think it'll be around, but I don't think the PS3 will be either.  I think the PS3 will die off much faster than the PS2 because of the way they will build the PS4... it'll be painstakenly easy to move projects over from a single Cell to a multi-cell PS4.



Doesnt the date tell you anything?



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April Fools. Nice try darth.



Darth, I'm a bit bored with your "breaking news OP" ... with big bold letters and exclamantions points....



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

Khuutra said:
Rpruett said:

While I don't believe it will catch the Wii or even make much of a move towards the Wii.   I do think the PS3 has a good possibility of taking 2nd place (end game) this generation.  Selling at a higher clip/time on the market at a higher price.  A vast majority of Japanese HD console upgrades will go in drastically in favor of the PS3.   The PS3 will almost certainly win in "Others".   

The real hurdle is the US.  (Which IMO is far more based on pricing then other territories).   I think as the price drops on the PS3 the US sales will pick up rapidly.  (Maybe not high enough to ever 'catch' the 360 in the US).  But enough that the combined effect of higher JPN numbers / higher others numbers will make the difference.

There are a lot of factors that will affect the 360/PS3 race, but I was only asking about how he thinks the PS3 is goign to be making a move on the Wii. The rest of it is immaterial.

 

      Pretty much for the same reason the PSP has been making a move on the DS the past two years.  I didn't expect to see the PS3 dishing out the same kind of treatment to the Wii in Japan this year that the PSP has been doing for the last two years until sometime in 2010.  Yet,, costing twice as much, the PS3 has been slugging it out toe to toe with the Wii in Japan so far this year.  If the PS3 gets an exclusive out of Hideo Kojima's next project, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus III, increased exclusives from Japanese developers, and Kingdom Hearts 3 as another exclusive from Square, then how could it not make some kind of  move  at the Wii?  Look at how well Nintendo's last couple of consoles fared in the long run against the last two Sony consoles.  If the Wii's numbers dropped off to Gamecube levels worldwide for some inexplicable reason at this point in the near future while the PS3's numbers suddenly heated up to PS2 type numbers, the PS3 would have made up the Wii's lead by the end of 2010.



Heavens to Murgatoids.

So... your idea of making a move on something doesn't include selling even close to the same amount it does?

All right. I guess that's fair.



Khuutra said:
So... your idea of making a move on something doesn't include selling even close to the same amount it does?

All right. I guess that's fair.

 

 Well, to quote Nick Des Barres, Play's Japan Editor,'s section from that article in Play.

"The PSP's Second Wind 

The bestselling Japanese game last year was for PSP.  Capcom's Monster Hunter G, with 2.45 million units.  Other high-profile 2008 titles like Dissidia Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star Portable have passed 800,000 and 600,000 units, respectively -- no chump change in a country where sales of 100,000 is considered a sizable hit.  As 2009 daws, it's all but official:  in the handheld centric Japan, PSP is the de facto choice for the traditional gamer.  Quite a stunning comeback for a platform steamrolled by the DS, which began in late 2007 with the simultaneous release of Crisis Core -- Final Fantasy VII - and the "Slim and Light" PSP-2000.  For almost all of 2008, PSP was the bestselling game hardware week over week, and as a result core gamer targeted software is being announced for the platform in droves.  Whether or not the PSP's second wind will waft its way across the Pacific to American shores nobody can say, but at the very least some Japanese developers will be freed from pop candy happy family pastel DS edutainment a-go-go."

And much the same things is starting to happen with the PS3 this year.  Japanese developers are already starting to put their core games on the PS3.  See the new Eternal Mana game as one example and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 as another and as the exclusives Sony has on the way as well as games like the two announced Square exclusives for the PS3 start to gain momentum for the PS3, you will see a real dogfight for the PS3 and Wii in the second half of this console generation that current sales numbers for the systems don't have any bearing upon.  I fully expect PSP to outsell DSi until the replacements for the two systems are announced and I think the PS3 will start to continously outsell the Wii in late 2010 on  a week to week basis. 



Heavens to Murgatoids.