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Why would they pull out of Japan? They've increased brand/market awareness and have notched up some decent titles - sure they're miles behind but I would imagine MS weren't expecting anything less.

The point is they've pushed the brand and have shown enough success outside Japan to get developers attention.

If nothing else they will likely stay just to remain a thorn in Sony's side and to try and slow the PS3 down by competing for titles, etc. as they have been.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

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BTFeather55 said:
Rei said:
BTFeather55 said:
mrstickball said:
Oh, btw, I thought this was a 360 discussion? Why has this become a 'PS3 is superior' discussion, BTF?

 

 Because in order to outline why the 360 will never be a success in Japan.  I have to discuss the biggest reason why it won't and that is the PS3 and exclusivity of FFXIII, FF Versus XIII, and other upcoming PS3 games that are destined to have tremendous success in Japan

 

    What are these other games?

 

 Hideo Kojima's Next Project, Tales of Vesperia PS3, Star Ocean4 PS3, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Team ICO Project, games from NIS like the upcoming Eternal Mana game, Level 5's next PS3 rpg,  there will be a ton of exclsuive games coming to the PS3 in Japan after it hits 5 million sales there this holiday season with the release of GT5 and FFXIII, and even more after FF Versus XIII pushes the PS3's install base up to 7 million in Japan.  If Kingdom Hearts III comes to the PS3, then it will sell over 10 million consoles in Japan this gen.

Neither of these games is "destined to have a tremendous success in Japan". Half of them are late ports that wont do any good in sales, some of them are not even announced for PS3.

   Aside from Final Fantasies and Gran Turismo there is nothing big coming for the PS3 in Japan.

 



Maybe Kojima will pull off a bioware, and actually mean PS3/PC instead of PS3/360



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Hideo's next project will sell more copies than Metal Gear Solid 4. Actually, Konami is going to have both Kojima's Special Project and Metal Gear Solid 5: Raiden headed to the PS3 as exclusives. And anyone that doesn't believe that they will both be system sellers is delusional.

And, Kingdom Hearts 3 can go either way (on Wii or PS3 imo). However, if it does come to PS3 then the PS3 will top 10 million sold in Japan this gen. Anyone that doesn't believe that there are big Japanese exclusives on the way for the PS3 during the rest of this gen has no idea what they're talking about.

You don't go head to head with the Wii for most of a year in Japan and not receive big exclusives of your own. Example: PSP and its expanding library. While DS is getting remakes from Square, the PSP is getting brand new games from Square like Dissidia, Crisis Core, and Agito and those games have been among the biggest titles in Japan the last few years.



Heavens to Murgatoids.

BTFeather55 said:
Hideo's next project will sell more copies than Metal Gear Solid 4. Actually, Konami is going to have both Kojima's Special Project and Metal Gear Solid 5: Raiden headed to the PS3 as exclusives. And anyone that doesn't believe that they will both be system sellers is delusional.

And, Kingdom Hearts 3 can go either way (on Wii or PS3 imo). However, if it does come to PS3 then the PS3 will top 10 million sold in Japan this gen. Anyone that doesn't believe that there are big Japanese exclusives on the way for the PS3 during the rest of this gen has no idea what they're talking about.

You don't go head to head with the Wii for most of a year in Japan and not receive big exclusives of your own. Example: PSP and its expanding library. While DS is getting remakes from Square, the PSP is getting brand new games from Square like Dissidia, Crisis Core, and Agito and those games have been among the biggest titles in Japan the last few years.

You sure like to make a lot of statements as "facts" even when these games haven't been announced yet.

All the symptoms of fanboy's disease.



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nightsurge said:
BTFeather55 said:
Hideo's next project will sell more copies than Metal Gear Solid 4. Actually, Konami is going to have both Kojima's Special Project and Metal Gear Solid 5: Raiden headed to the PS3 as exclusives. And anyone that doesn't believe that they will both be system sellers is delusional.

And, Kingdom Hearts 3 can go either way (on Wii or PS3 imo). However, if it does come to PS3 then the PS3 will top 10 million sold in Japan this gen. Anyone that doesn't believe that there are big Japanese exclusives on the way for the PS3 during the rest of this gen has no idea what they're talking about.

You don't go head to head with the Wii for most of a year in Japan and not receive big exclusives of your own. Example: PSP and its expanding library. While DS is getting remakes from Square, the PSP is getting brand new games from Square like Dissidia, Crisis Core, and Agito and those games have been among the biggest titles in Japan the last few years.

You sure like to make a lot of statements as "facts" even when these games haven't been announced yet.

All the symptoms of fanboy's disease.

 

      I guess it comes from the fact that I['ve called games like Ninja Gaiden Sigma II and Tales of Vesperia PS3 months before they've ever beed announced.  What you have to do is look at circumstances in the present and and see how they will affect what will happen in the future.

     And while the 360 has failed to really take off in Japan, the PS3 has been duking it out with the supposably invulnerable Wii for most of this year and been very close, ahead or tied with Wii for almost the last three months.

     Now what we do know is that Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy XIII, and Versus XIII are all headed to the PS3 as exclusives in Japan.  Judging from past performances of games in these series on past Sony consoles, these three games will have the cumulative effect of rapidly doubling the size of the PS3's install (while the 360 has nothing comparable on the way and games that were once thought to have been able to spur 360 sales in that country like Star Ocean, Infinite Undiscovery, The Last Remnant, and Tales of Vesperia have failed to do so), and when a console in one region has five to seven times the install base of another console you very rarely see increased game development for the console with the smaller install base especially when past big titles on the console with the lower install base haven't shown that they sale all they well to begin with.

 

 



Heavens to Murgatoids.

The 360 is dead in Japan, and with no exclusive released in months, it could well end up dying quicker than expected in the US and Europe too, especially since AAA exclusives continue to rain on the PS3.

The only thing keeping the 360 alive right now is its ridiculously low price.



I wasn't referring to your claims of those new games being released. Those are pretty obvious. I meant your claims of how much each would sell was rather stupid all things considered.



Tim_Duncan said:
The 360 is dead in Japan, and with no exclusive released in months, it could well end up dying quicker than expected in the US and Europe too, especially since AAA exclusives continue to rain on the PS3.

The only thing keeping the 360 alive right now is its ridiculously low price.

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Tim_Duncan said:
The 360 is dead in Japan, and with no exclusive released in months, it could well end up dying quicker than expected in the US and Europe too, especially since AAA exclusives continue to rain on the PS3.

The only thing keeping the 360 alive right now is its ridiculously low price.

 

Such statments always come from newbies on this forum.... typical ....



 

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