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rocketpig said:
disolitude said:
Thanks ameratsu for advice. I will have to consider this...

A freind of mine owned a 3000gts sister car, dodge stealth, and told me that timing belt cost him 300 dollars to change.

I was laughing at him thinking he got ripped off cause 300 is way too much for that. Plus I owned a Monte Carlo at the time which doesn't even have a timing belt but a timing chain good for the life of the car and I thought dodge would be the same.

But more and more people like yourself have told me that engine work on that car is very price so he may have not been ripped off after all :)

One of my friends used to work in the parts industry and he always said one thing:

Never, ever buy a Mitsubishi. He quoted me prices on some of the parts and they were outrageous. The 3000GT is probably a kick-ass car but after hearing nightmare stories from someone in the industry, I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.

 

 

I disagree. I personally wouldn't buy a 3000gt for reasons I outlined above, but never buy a mitsubishi? That's not fair. Evos are very capable and reliable cars provided you don't mod the hell out of them. The Outlander won car of the year award in Canada last year. Regardless, you are going to be paying more for parts with a japanese car than with an american car. Getting parts from wreckers and buying oem parts where it's okay to do so instead of genuine are two easy ways to save money.

One of my beefs with the 3000gt vr-4 is that it has 4 wheel steering. That means that above 50km/hr, the rear wheels actually turn slightly under cornering to improve understeer. The problem is that 4ws systems add yet more complexity (read: stuff that can break) to an already complex car. There are lines that take power steering fluid to the rear steering rack, a rear steering pump, etc, etc. They have been known to leak or behave erratically.



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ameratsu said:
rocketpig said:
disolitude said:
Thanks ameratsu for advice. I will have to consider this...

A freind of mine owned a 3000gts sister car, dodge stealth, and told me that timing belt cost him 300 dollars to change.

I was laughing at him thinking he got ripped off cause 300 is way too much for that. Plus I owned a Monte Carlo at the time which doesn't even have a timing belt but a timing chain good for the life of the car and I thought dodge would be the same.

But more and more people like yourself have told me that engine work on that car is very price so he may have not been ripped off after all :)

One of my friends used to work in the parts industry and he always said one thing:

Never, ever buy a Mitsubishi. He quoted me prices on some of the parts and they were outrageous. The 3000GT is probably a kick-ass car but after hearing nightmare stories from someone in the industry, I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.

 

 

I disagree. I personally wouldn't buy a 3000gt for reasons I outlined above, but never buy a mitsubishi? That's not fair. Evos are very capable and reliable cars provided you don't mod the hell out of them. Regardless, you are going to be paying more for parts with a japanese car than with an american car. Getting parts from wreckers and buying oem parts where it's okay to do so instead of genuine are two easy ways to save money.

One of my beefs with the 3000gt vr-4 is that it has 4 wheel steering. That means that above 50km/hr, the rear wheels actually turn slightly under cornering to improve understeer. The problem is that 4ws systems add yet more complexity (read: stuff that can break) to an already complex car. There are lines that take power steering fluid to the rear steering rack, a rear steering pump, etc, etc.

No one ever questioned the reliability of the cars but parts expense is something you have to factor in on a 10+ year old vehicle with 100k on the clock. I should have said something more along the lines of "never, ever buy an old Mitsubishi with a bunch of miles on it". At some point, you will be going into the mechanicals of any car unless it's some dead-reliable econo box with no horsepower. No matter how well something is engineered, horsepower will break it.

Good point about the four wheel steering, BTW. There are reasons why other car companies haven't used it much... Expensive, heavy, and more stuff to break for very little actual gain in performance.

 




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I am going to have to say get the Corvette, I know big surprise huh? They are fantastic cars and I am thinking of getting a new one myself and trading in my old one. It may come as a surprise to you, but unless you live where the winters get really bad, they are capable cars in the winter due to the traction control. In fact, I would just reccommend getting a second set of rims and winter tires for that reason, instead of getting a second car.



disolitude said:

Any other ones you guys have experience with that are in the same price range that I may have overlooked? The important thing to remember is that I am not trying to go for a boy racer car...so all those Nissan 350Z, RX8, Exclipse, SI ...etc are not what I am going for. Mitsu Evo would be nice but out of price range...

 

Old evo's aren't what you are looking for. Lighter-sized gas reserve, noisy and uncomfortable highway cruise, spartan interiors... I've also heard wear and tear is really bad.





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Bitmap Frogs said:
disolitude said:

Any other ones you guys have experience with that are in the same price range that I may have overlooked? The important thing to remember is that I am not trying to go for a boy racer car...so all those Nissan 350Z, RX8, Exclipse, SI ...etc are not what I am going for. Mitsu Evo would be nice but out of price range...

 

Old evo's aren't what you are looking for. Lighter-sized gas reserve, noisy and uncomfortable highway cruise, spartan interiors... I've also heard wear and tear is really bad.

 

by "old evo", do you just mean every evo except the evo x? There have been "evos" since 1992, but I think you mean evo 8-9, as earlier evos weren't sold in north america. Besides, he's canadian, so any non evo-x evo would have to be imported.



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Mustang says classy.

Corvette says wealthy.

3000GT says sporty.

G35 says "Don't buy me."



ameratsu said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
disolitude said:

Any other ones you guys have experience with that are in the same price range that I may have overlooked? The important thing to remember is that I am not trying to go for a boy racer car...so all those Nissan 350Z, RX8, Exclipse, SI ...etc are not what I am going for. Mitsu Evo would be nice but out of price range...

 

Old evo's aren't what you are looking for. Lighter-sized gas reserve, noisy and uncomfortable highway cruise, spartan interiors... I've also heard wear and tear is really bad.

 

by "old evo", do you just mean every evo except the evo x? There have been "evos" since 1992, but I think you mean evo 8-9, as earlier evos weren't sold in north america. Besides, he's canadian, so any non evo-x evo would have to be imported.

 

Import taxes are a no go then =/





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Vetteman94 said:
I am going to have to say get the Corvette, I know big surprise huh? They are fantastic cars and I am thinking of getting a new one myself and trading in my old one. It may come as a surprise to you, but unless you live where the winters get really bad, they are capable cars in the winter due to the traction control. In fact, I would just reccommend getting a second set of rims and winter tires for that reason, instead of getting a second car.

 

Heh...winters in Canada get pretty harsh. Besides, I wouldn't want to expose the Vette to the snow. Winters and salts cause rust and other complications. I know Vette is fiberglass but still... I drive a 2001 monte carlo now and will prolly sell that and get some winter beater.

I'm still test driving the 3000gt today and I will see how it compares to the vette, but unless its equally good (and cheaper which it is) I will be getting the Corvette most likely.



Bitmap Frogs said:
ameratsu said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
disolitude said:

Any other ones you guys have experience with that are in the same price range that I may have overlooked? The important thing to remember is that I am not trying to go for a boy racer car...so all those Nissan 350Z, RX8, Exclipse, SI ...etc are not what I am going for. Mitsu Evo would be nice but out of price range...

 

Old evo's aren't what you are looking for. Lighter-sized gas reserve, noisy and uncomfortable highway cruise, spartan interiors... I've also heard wear and tear is really bad.

 

by "old evo", do you just mean every evo except the evo x? There have been "evos" since 1992, but I think you mean evo 8-9, as earlier evos weren't sold in north america. Besides, he's canadian, so any non evo-x evo would have to be imported.

 

Import taxes are a no go then =/

Yeah, new evos just came out here last year and they are over 40000 bucks. even the Rally art version is over 30K used. Evos and impreza's for some reason retain insane value second hand.

I wouldn't want to get any other Evo but Evo X anyways...the looks on those earlier lancers is quite pedestrian. New one got it right, even if it did rip off Volvos front end :)

 



disolitude said:
Vetteman94 said:
I am going to have to say get the Corvette, I know big surprise huh? They are fantastic cars and I am thinking of getting a new one myself and trading in my old one. It may come as a surprise to you, but unless you live where the winters get really bad, they are capable cars in the winter due to the traction control. In fact, I would just reccommend getting a second set of rims and winter tires for that reason, instead of getting a second car.

 

Heh...winters in Canada get pretty harsh. Besides, I wouldn't want to expose the Vette to the snow. Winters and salts cause rust and other complications. I know Vette is fiberglass but still... I drive a 2001 monte carlo now and will prolly sell that and get some winter beater.

I'm still test driving the 3000gt today and I will see how it compares to the vette, but unless its equally good (and cheaper which it is) I will be getting the Corvette most likely.


 Yeah, winters in Canada can be a little harsh.  So i understand there.

The 3000GT is a heavy car, althought having AWD allows it to still handle well.  I just think its seriously underpowered due to its weight. 

Well if you do happen to get a Corvette,  welcome to the club.