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By the way, in case you can find a game which sold well according to my requirements above (I think Fatal Frame IV may do it since it outsold all the PS2 Fatal Frame games), add the condition that the game has to sell a great amount right from the first week.

 



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NJ5 said:
SlumsofOhio said:

But all indications show that the game will track just like Zack and Wiki and NMH. Unless the game sees a magical boost in April and May. The last time I checked no one celebrates christmas in the spring time.

 

There is 10 weeks of sales data in the above charts, with many more sales which don't even fit on those 10 weeks (as you can see by adding the numbers up). Unless you live in a country where the holiday season lasts for more than 20 weeks I don't see your point.

My point is that lots of Wii games have good legs, which makes first week sales not that relevant.

 

Look at the Star Wars example you made. Its shows that 81% of its sales were during the Holiday period. Thats a poor example. Madwolrd won't see any boost for some time. Look at NMH, then Madworld. I assure you, it will track exactly the same, give or take a couple thousand.

 

We are getting 2nd week sales for Madworld, which I've shown already. 40k to 17k is far form being impressive. I guess we will have to wait until weeks 4 and 5 until we can say if the legs will exist.

 



                                   

Wii violent game sales in order of Metacritic score (cause it is presented in a nice list):
Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition - 1.54m
Metroid Prime 3 - 1.5m
No More Heroes - 0.39m
MadWorld - 0.07m~
Bully - 0.4m
Call of Duty - 1.02m
The house of the dead - 0.18m
Smackdown vs Raw - 0.89m
The Godfather - 0.13m
Resident Evil:Umbrela Cronicles - 1.26

PS3 violent games list blablabla:

GTA - 5.51
CoD4 - 4.11
Biochock - 0.36
MGS4 - 3.89
Oblivion - 2.65
Killzone 2 - 1.24
Fallout 3 - 1.35
Orange Box - 0.2
Dead space - 0.58
Uncharted - 2.32

And the PS3 equivalents to Wii games (where available) so we compare aples to aples:
COD - 4.1m
Smackdown vs raw - 0.63m
The godfather - 0.2m

The rest are on PS2. Won't compare to Xbox360 cause it has better numbers.

We can see that even the equivalent games sell better on PS3 (ranging from slightly to strongly), even though the install base is 44% of that of the Wii, and even though there are many violent games on the PS3 to satisfy.

So yes, MadWorld would have sold better on the other consoles.



@NJ5
House of the Dead sold nicely indeed, almost a million. I guess there's a certain public of light gun games on the Wii, but that still comes into shooter territory (oh, and week 7+ were holidays period, see how it tapers in japan but grows in NA and EU)

And Star Wars duels? One of the biggest brands, plus the idea of dueling with lightsabres using wiimote motions.

Nice sales in both cases, but I still think they don't tell us squat about the sales of Madworld.
Somewhat more comparable games: No More Heroes, Okami, Godfather (?), Tenchu (?)
I can't find many examples, sadly, but I don't see any evidence of "legs"

Please note that I'm not dissing the game... its PAL gimping angers me, but I'll probably pick it up later when it's cheaper. And its sales aren't great, but even great games like Okami did worse.
It's just that I think this "Wii legs" thing is a myth if taken at face value in general.



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ithis said:

So yes, MadWorld would have sold better on the other consoles.

There is no equivalent to Madworld on the other consoles. There was on the PS2, though.

It was called God Hand.



Madworld looks like a cool game,i dont see why they are hating on it :(



@WereKitten: How is Okami comparable? If we want to say only very similar games can be compared, then I guess No More Heroes is indeed the only valid comparison. That's very convenient but ultimately meaningless since it's only one game.

I'm not saying Madworld will necessarily have legs, I'm just saying it's too early to tell. "Wii legs" is certainly not a myth, plenty of Wii games have legs (copied from the post I linked above):

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=13703&region=All
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=13791&region=All
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=17718&region=All
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23991&region=All
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12584&region=All
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12811&region=All
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=13684&region=All
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7260&region=All
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=28951&region=All
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12355&region=All

PS: Like you I'm also angered by the PAL conversion, I'll probably import a NTSC version and play it with Homebrew at some point.

 



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ithis said:

Wii violent game sales in order of Metacritic score (cause it is presented in a nice list):

Call of Duty - 1.02m
Smackdown vs Raw - 0.89m
The Godfather - 0.13m

PS3 violent games list blablabla:

COD - 4.1m
Smackdown vs raw - 0.63m
The godfather - 0.2m



We can see that even the equivalent games sell better on PS3 (ranging from slightly to strongly), even though the install base is 44% of that of the Wii, and even though there are many violent games on the PS3 to satisfy.

So yes, MadWorld would have sold better on the other consoles.

 

So the main version of COD sold better than a spinoff?  And after that what?  Smackdown sold better on Wii and the Godfather sold better on PS3, but neither one by much. 

The rest of your lists (which I deleted) were small niche games (wii) vs. huge budget large franchise sequals (ps3). No good comparison can be made between those.



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Khuutra said:
ithis said:

So yes, MadWorld would have sold better on the other consoles.

There is no equivalent to Madworld on the other consoles. There was on the PS2, though.

It was called God Hand.

 

Well, base off of the VGCharts sales, which are for Japan only, we can't say much since Madworld is has no japan numbers yet. But I doubt the newfound female gamerbase will help it sell installbase adjusted equivalent numbers.