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halogamer1989 said:
Microsoft has a pro gay campus in Sammamish for Pete's sake! This lawsuit will go NOWHERE!

Microsoft's alleged gay-friendly activity elsewhere would be irrelevant in this particular case about alleged gaybashing at work in this one Microsoft office.  You can't go into a court and pull the "but but but I have tons of gay friends" defense.



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@Rubang As for the tag thing, the XBL Terms of Use specifically states that sexual stuff is not allowed for a gamertag. The employee can't even follow simple rules and then has a mini depression. Personally, I would fire him as he is too busy with games instead of making them and wants to cry when he doesn't get his way.

5. How You May Not Use the Service.

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Create a Gamertag , avatar or use text in other profile fields that may offend other members. This includes comments that look, sound like, stand for, hint at, abbreviate, or insinuate or relate to any of the following: profane words/phrases, topics or content of a sexual nature, hate speech (including but not limited to racial, ethnic, or religious slurs), illegal drugs/controlled substances, or illegal activities;

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http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/LiveTOU.htm

 



god you people have no soul :/

you can't super_MAN45 either because man is a sex it's that the case.



The Ghost of RubangB said:

It was reclassified in part due to studies done at UCLA in the late 60s and early 70s.  They studied a large group of homosexual men in Los Angeles, and found that the percentage of homosexuals with mental illnesses is exactly the same as the percentage of heterosexuals with mental illnesses.  Mental illnesses often come in groups, or one can lead to another.  So if homosexuals were mentally unstable, they would have more mental illnesses than heterosexuals.  But they don't.  So it was concluded that homosexuality is not a mental illness.

 

Did you make that up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology#cite_note-8

  • Psychiatric disorders: In a Dutch study, gay men reported significantly higher mood and anxiety disorders than straight men, and lesbians were significantly more likely to experience depression (but not other mood or anxiety disorders) than straight women.[8] This difference may be caused by the stresses gay and lesbian people face stemming from anti-gay attitudes. However, a Netherlands study (where homosexuality is much more widely accepted than that in the U.S.) shows that mental health problems in homosexuals are still much higher than in heterosexuals, despite the more tolerant society.[9] [1]

 

  • Suicide: Gay and bisexual male youths are over 13 times more likely to attempt suicide than heterosexual male youths.[5] No such difference was found between lesbian and straight female youths.[6] Gay and lesbian youth who attempt suicide are disproportionately subject to anti-gay attitudes, and have weaker skills for coping with discrimination, isolation, and loneliness, than those who do not attempt suicide.[1][7]


Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

Tyrannical said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:

It was reclassified in part due to studies done at UCLA in the late 60s and early 70s.  They studied a large group of homosexual men in Los Angeles, and found that the percentage of homosexuals with mental illnesses is exactly the same as the percentage of heterosexuals with mental illnesses.  Mental illnesses often come in groups, or one can lead to another.  So if homosexuals were mentally unstable, they would have more mental illnesses than heterosexuals.  But they don't.  So it was concluded that homosexuality is not a mental illness.

 

Did you make that up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology#cite_note-8

  • Psychiatric disorders: In a Dutch study, gay men reported significantly higher mood and anxiety disorders than straight men, and lesbians were significantly more likely to experience depression (but not other mood or anxiety disorders) than straight women.[8] This difference may be caused by the stresses gay and lesbian people face stemming from anti-gay attitudes. However, a Netherlands study (where homosexuality is much more widely accepted than that in the U.S.) shows that mental health problems in homosexuals are still much higher than in heterosexuals, despite the more tolerant society.[9] [1]

 

  • Suicide: Gay and bisexual male youths are over 13 times more likely to attempt suicide than heterosexual male youths.[5] No such difference was found between lesbian and straight female youths.[6] Gay and lesbian youth who attempt suicide are disproportionately subject to anti-gay attitudes, and have weaker skills for coping with discrimination, isolation, and loneliness, than those who do not attempt suicide.[1][7]

 

We have a winner folks.  This is also a large reason why generals wan't full non-homosexual armies under their command, AFRICOM, CENTCOM, what have you.  The anxiety is exacerbated on the field with gay men.



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He needs to ask for a lot more. I can't believe that a company as big as Microsoft allows that to go on.




According to a former employee of Lionhead Studios, being openly gay at a Microsoft-owned development studio can be just as bad as having an openly gay Xbox Live gamertag.

 

 

Wait a second. Lionhead studios? As in the maker of Fables I&II?

Does no one else remember the uproar caused by Fable allowing homosexual marriges in game?

Seems pretty friendly and accepting of gays to me.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

halogamer1989 said:
Tyrannical said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:

It was reclassified in part due to studies done at UCLA in the late 60s and early 70s.  They studied a large group of homosexual men in Los Angeles, and found that the percentage of homosexuals with mental illnesses is exactly the same as the percentage of heterosexuals with mental illnesses.  Mental illnesses often come in groups, or one can lead to another.  So if homosexuals were mentally unstable, they would have more mental illnesses than heterosexuals.  But they don't.  So it was concluded that homosexuality is not a mental illness.

 

Did you make that up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology#cite_note-8

  • Psychiatric disorders: In a Dutch study, gay men reported significantly higher mood and anxiety disorders than straight men, and lesbians were significantly more likely to experience depression (but not other mood or anxiety disorders) than straight women.[8] This difference may be caused by the stresses gay and lesbian people face stemming from anti-gay attitudes. However, a Netherlands study (where homosexuality is much more widely accepted than that in the U.S.) shows that mental health problems in homosexuals are still much higher than in heterosexuals, despite the more tolerant society.[9] [1]

 

  • Suicide: Gay and bisexual male youths are over 13 times more likely to attempt suicide than heterosexual male youths.[5] No such difference was found between lesbian and straight female youths.[6] Gay and lesbian youth who attempt suicide are disproportionately subject to anti-gay attitudes, and have weaker skills for coping with discrimination, isolation, and loneliness, than those who do not attempt suicide.[1][7]

 

We have a winner folks.  This is also a large reason why generals wan't full non-homosexual armies under their command, AFRICOM, CENTCOM, what have you.  The anxiety is exacerbated on the field with gay men.

 

I would like to know what they classify as anti-gay attitudes.  Are they talking about blatant comments and actions from others that reject a person who is homosexual, or are they talking as well about an environment that is simply more condusive to heterosexual behavior.  If a person grows up different from everyone around them, of course including even their parents, they will naturally feel alone and different regardless of how they are treated.  Sure some of them, if loved enough, can learn to accept themselves and think of themselves as special, but more often than not, because kids go through stages of development, they are not going to just accept themselves naturally and parents don't usually know what to do when their child is homosexual.  Everyone wants to be normal and to get along with others, but it is exceptionally hard for people who aren't like those around them.  I wonder if there are more mental problems associated with ANY person (minority) who grows up in an environment with a HUGE proportion difference with the majority. 

Most gay kids grow up only knowing maybe 3 or 4 others like them at most, everyone else is either heterosexual, in the closet, or in places that they shouldn't be.  And those 3 or 4 may not even be friends with each other.  And because of confusion, harmones, and finding oneself, they might have slept with those few people who are like them by the time they get out of high school.  Why?  Because they are pushed and drawn to those who are like them because they are the minority and because they do not have the same relationship options that others do (marriage as a moral stabilizer). 

They are not just a minority in race either, but in sexual attraction which is a detrimental part of becoming an adult and a prime source of confusion amongst teens.  Teens will learn from others and their parents how to behave appropriately, but with homosexuals, they don't have anyone to teach them, since their parents are most likely heterosexual.  What makes it even harder is that, contrary to what some believe, homosexual feelings are a part of who a person IS, therefore if they feel that that part of them is not normal or is not accepted to any degree, then they are rejecting themselves and will have a much harder time following the necessary path to good mental health.  So they will be more apt to do things that mess with their emotions, self esteem, and social status.  They might rebel more, close in more, or do destructive acts.  They will also have a tendancy to fulfill the image that they are treated as.  Instead of just being who they are, they might dress, act, and talk like a stereotypical homosexual.  Homosexuality starts to become WHO they are because it is the one thing that stands out as such a difference from everyone else and becomes a focal point in their developmental process, a time when they should be thinking more of what they want out of life.




mmnin said:

 

I would like to know what they classify as anti-gay attitudes.  Are they talking about blatant comments and actions from others that reject a person who is homosexual, or are they talking as well about an environment that is simply more condusive to heterosexual behavior. 

 

At least one of the studies I found was done in Holland. I understand that they are fairly accepting of homosexuals. Enough so that the right wing elected a gay leader. I can't remember his name, but I think some of his opponets called him the gay hitler. He was later murdered by a muslim immigrant.

The Dutch study is important as it attempts to rule out anti-gay sentiments as the cause of the increased mental illness rate.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

Tyrannical said:
mmnin said:

 

I would like to know what they classify as anti-gay attitudes.  Are they talking about blatant comments and actions from others that reject a person who is homosexual, or are they talking as well about an environment that is simply more condusive to heterosexual behavior. 

 

At least one of the studies I found was done in Holland. I understand that they are fairly accepting of homosexuals. Enough so that the right wing elected a gay leader. I can't remember his name, but I think some of his opponets called him the gay hitler. He was later murdered by a muslim immigrant.

The Dutch study is important as it attempts to rule out anti-gay sentiments as the cause of the increased mental illness rate.

hm.  I'm still inclined to think that regardless of the general acceptance around the individual, there would have to be some major love and focused identity creation in ways that do not center around the child's sexual identity in order for him/her to bipass that the child is developmentally different than  his/her peers.  I think it would still be difficult for a homosexual to not have a risk of having mental instability of some sort.  Surrounded by guys who mostly act one way and think one way about girls and girls who act one way and think one way about guys, while the child....well, thinks/feels his/her way.  Its an obvious developmental obstacle that would be very hard to detour around and deimphasize in the child's mind while everyone around them are getting into relationships and relating to each other concerning and through their relationships.  I know I don't live there, but I would love to see what type of social environment that they have in order to analyze the possibilities and validity of their studies.

Interesting about the gay Hitler. I might have to look that up.  Also, how long have they been accepting of homosexuals in the way that you say they are now?  Do they accept gay marriage?  If so, how long have they?